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<blockquote data-quote="Hillsy7" data-source="post: 7147076" data-attributes="member: 6689191"><p>1) As people have mentioned, you're maths is wrong. Think someone mentioned you might be adding CHA 20 to the mod instead of CHA (+5)</p><p>2) There's also a reason why with bounded accuracy, 5e suggests point buy and standard array up to 15.</p><p>3) As mentioned already, Expertise doesn't stack with the Diplomat feat.</p><p>4) I'm guessing they started with Variant human to get the feat, knowing they wanted a crazy diplomacy/persuasion/CHA skilled character - which begs the question: armed with the nous to put this combination of Class-Race-Feat together based around a single skill....why are they letting you make honest mistakes like allowing a +28 Persuasion check without checking for themselves. It sounds to me like they know it's wrong, but are happy to take it. This isn't cool - once this is straightened out, I'd assess whether Iwant to be in game with people who'd let a mistake like that slide just because it benefits them.....In my opinion that is....</p><p>5) This kind of crazy munchkin, screw-combat I want bantz, bypass issues through chat, Locke Lamora kinda game is what they want to play. In which case, either let them, or part ways. There's nowt wrong with having various tones of gameplay available, but it is important everyone at the table is OK with the tone you've chosen</p><p>6) On a more mechanical level: Hostile is a relative thing. If I don't want to, say, let my daughter date any man that isn't a Priest, then sure as hell i'm going to be Hostile to anyone saying otherwise. I might not be physically hostile, but that idea is going to be like eating a handful of wasps to me. Hostility in social interactions is your "attacking you" stance in combat. Use it.</p><p></p><p>It's perfectly reasonable for a charm attempt to fail because you want to date the farmers daughter, but succeed if immediately afterwards you ask to borrow one of his 20 horses.....</p><p></p><p>7) Also, possible doesn't mean reasonable. Learn to use high DCs where applicable.</p><p></p><p>I think that's enough for now....there's been lots of good advice so far...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hillsy7, post: 7147076, member: 6689191"] 1) As people have mentioned, you're maths is wrong. Think someone mentioned you might be adding CHA 20 to the mod instead of CHA (+5) 2) There's also a reason why with bounded accuracy, 5e suggests point buy and standard array up to 15. 3) As mentioned already, Expertise doesn't stack with the Diplomat feat. 4) I'm guessing they started with Variant human to get the feat, knowing they wanted a crazy diplomacy/persuasion/CHA skilled character - which begs the question: armed with the nous to put this combination of Class-Race-Feat together based around a single skill....why are they letting you make honest mistakes like allowing a +28 Persuasion check without checking for themselves. It sounds to me like they know it's wrong, but are happy to take it. This isn't cool - once this is straightened out, I'd assess whether Iwant to be in game with people who'd let a mistake like that slide just because it benefits them.....In my opinion that is.... 5) This kind of crazy munchkin, screw-combat I want bantz, bypass issues through chat, Locke Lamora kinda game is what they want to play. In which case, either let them, or part ways. There's nowt wrong with having various tones of gameplay available, but it is important everyone at the table is OK with the tone you've chosen 6) On a more mechanical level: Hostile is a relative thing. If I don't want to, say, let my daughter date any man that isn't a Priest, then sure as hell i'm going to be Hostile to anyone saying otherwise. I might not be physically hostile, but that idea is going to be like eating a handful of wasps to me. Hostility in social interactions is your "attacking you" stance in combat. Use it. It's perfectly reasonable for a charm attempt to fail because you want to date the farmers daughter, but succeed if immediately afterwards you ask to borrow one of his 20 horses..... 7) Also, possible doesn't mean reasonable. Learn to use high DCs where applicable. I think that's enough for now....there's been lots of good advice so far... [/QUOTE]
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