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<blockquote data-quote="Bront" data-source="post: 2263993" data-attributes="member: 19696"><p>The point of the spell though is to give a flat bonus.</p><p></p><p>Consider a potion of expedius retreat (not unreasonable). Sudently the dwarf in platemail can gain his +30' movement. How is it unreasonable that he gains +30 more? Saying he's now faster than other creatures doesn't make it unbalanced, because it's a magical spell. Natural creatures can't cast fireballs, most can't fly, and if they can't be caught by normal means, not a big deal. That's the point of the spell.</p><p></p><p>A fly spell grants a flat 60 fly, but that's because most creatures likely to have it cast uppon them can't fly normaly. Giving a human +30 fly speed is useless, because they can't fly normaly. And most natural creatures can't catch someone with fly any easier than someone who has FoF cast on them. They can't even follow them.</p><p></p><p>You mentioned things with a 5' move. Fly and FoF are almost the identical spell here, except fly is more powerful by far in this case, because you're not limited to ground movement.</p><p></p><p>You mentioned 60' vision. Fly takes you out of that range too.</p><p></p><p>FYI:</p><p></p><p>According to the RAW, you can empower an expedious retreat and allow a +45' speed bonus. Personaly, I don't think FoF is too powerfull, but just to note than you can already add more than 30' to your movement using spells in the RAW. Not to mention they stack with books of striding and springing, monk speed bonuses, barb speed bonuses, ect.</p><p></p><p>I do think that perhaps you should limit the spell to huminoids of medium size or smaller, so no +60' horses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bront, post: 2263993, member: 19696"] The point of the spell though is to give a flat bonus. Consider a potion of expedius retreat (not unreasonable). Sudently the dwarf in platemail can gain his +30' movement. How is it unreasonable that he gains +30 more? Saying he's now faster than other creatures doesn't make it unbalanced, because it's a magical spell. Natural creatures can't cast fireballs, most can't fly, and if they can't be caught by normal means, not a big deal. That's the point of the spell. A fly spell grants a flat 60 fly, but that's because most creatures likely to have it cast uppon them can't fly normaly. Giving a human +30 fly speed is useless, because they can't fly normaly. And most natural creatures can't catch someone with fly any easier than someone who has FoF cast on them. They can't even follow them. You mentioned things with a 5' move. Fly and FoF are almost the identical spell here, except fly is more powerful by far in this case, because you're not limited to ground movement. You mentioned 60' vision. Fly takes you out of that range too. FYI: According to the RAW, you can empower an expedious retreat and allow a +45' speed bonus. Personaly, I don't think FoF is too powerfull, but just to note than you can already add more than 30' to your movement using spells in the RAW. Not to mention they stack with books of striding and springing, monk speed bonuses, barb speed bonuses, ect. I do think that perhaps you should limit the spell to huminoids of medium size or smaller, so no +60' horses. [/QUOTE]
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