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Message: <blockquote data-quote="yennico" data-source="post: 2264068" data-attributes="member: 11978">it is not unbalanced because of being faster than other creatures. It is unbalanced because movement is important part in combat, in combat rules, etc....  and the rules are designed for a specific speed (base speed or enhanced speed)A base speed chart /per round5 ft step10 ft.15 ft.20 ft. dwarf30 ft. human40 ft. human barbarian60 ft. fly, expeditious retreat on human75 ft. human with empowered expedititous retreat spell (wich uses a 3rd level slot and the caster needs a feat)faster: Dimension door, Teleport, WindwalkMost SRD ground bound creatures have a base speed maximum 60 ft (megaraptor). The combat rules are based on this movement. With a fly spell a person can catch each land-bound creature.A creature with 5´move enhanced by a fly spell has a speed of 60 ft.A creature with 5´move enhanced by a FoF spell has a speed of 65 ft.That is correct. But granting more boost to speed is no option to improve the power of a FoF spell to the level of power of a fly spell.Yes but a creature with fly spell can only fly 60´per round. A full plate dwarf enhanced by a FoF spell can run 80 ft. per round but only sees 60´.That is correct, but1. empowered expeditious retreat uses a 3rd level spell slot and grants only +45 ft. and not +60 ft.2. you need a feat for empowering. 3. The range of expeditious retreat is personal4.  If FoF exists nobody would cast an empowered expeditious retreat spell.Edited: If do not know if you can empower expeditious retreat, because . Expeditious retreat grants a fixed +30, a bonus that is not variable. If you can empower expeditious retreat you can empower the fly spell to 90 ft.But you can not add +60 ft ground speed to your base speed using the RAW. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />If FoF adds +60 ft: - it is weaker than the fly spell- but it is more powerful than an empowered expeditious retreat spell because FoF has a higher bonus and the range is not personal.With your limitation a centaur or giant spellcaster has no benefit from this spell.</blockquote>

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