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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aereas" data-source="post: 2874799" data-attributes="member: 31008">I thank you all for posting a reply!To clear some of the arose questions up:Yes it was 53 damage from 1 hit, and no I did not make the fort save as I don't use the massive damage rule. While yes the system shock makes sense I hate the idea of a character dieing from a normal attack due to a bad fort save.The rule about applying things to baddies and players alike is a good thing to bring up! I didn't even think of that but I will keep it in mind for next time. I Settled for raising the concentration DC of the baddie and just moving on with the game until this matter could be settled.Once again I would like to thank everyone for thier comments. If the player isn't satisfied (or agrees) with all the comments posted so far then I say "oh well. I tried, and doing anymore would be just plain out uneeded".</blockquote>