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<blockquote data-quote="gfunk" data-source="post: 488250" data-attributes="member: 1813">Please help me choose an 8th level spell for my PC (Sorcerer 9/Alienist 7) [BTW, yes we have a house rule about Knowledge (Planes)]Here are my relevant feats:Energy Sub (Sonic)Empower SpellSculpt SpellSpell Focus (Evoc)Spell Focus (Ench)Greater Spell Focus (Evoc)Cha is 25Spells at 5th level and above:5Dominate PersonWall of ForceHold MonsterCone of Cold6Summon Monster VIProject ImageAnti-Magic Field7Limited WishReality Malestrom (MotP)8???Help me choose my first 8th level spell please!&nbsp; Valid sources include PHB, MotP, and all of WOTC splatbooks.&nbsp; (All polymorph spells hhave been banned!)I was thinking about:Summon Monster VIII. . . because all monsters I summon have the pseudonatural template.&nbsp; 1-3 Bebiliths, Huge Elementals, or Elder Xorns would kick ass.&nbsp; Noble Salamanders are sweet too.&nbsp; A relevant pseudonatural ability is a +20 to hit on one attack 1/day.&nbsp; If used with special attacks, like the Bebilith's armor ripping or the Salamander's constriction, it is quite powerful and versatile.Bigby's Clenched FistWould be DC 29 Fort save or be stunned with a +33 to hit.&nbsp; I was seriously considering this one, but now I'm torn.Otto's Irresistable DanceCombined with Project Image, this can be potent.&nbsp; I have several damaging spells that require Relfex saves (Fireball, Cone of Cold, Reality Maelstrom) along with Empower to increase damage.Any other ideas?BTW, we are playing the Dungeon adventure &quot;The Harrowing.&quot;&nbsp; Funny thing is my Alienist phobia is spiders!THANKS!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gfunk, post: 488250, member: 1813"] Please help me choose an 8th level spell for my PC (Sorcerer 9/Alienist 7) [BTW, yes we have a house rule about Knowledge (Planes)] Here are my relevant feats: Energy Sub (Sonic) Empower Spell Sculpt Spell Spell Focus (Evoc) Spell Focus (Ench) Greater Spell Focus (Evoc) Cha is 25 Spells at 5th level and above: 5 Dominate Person Wall of Force Hold Monster Cone of Cold 6 Summon Monster VI Project Image Anti-Magic Field 7 Limited Wish Reality Malestrom (MotP) 8 ??? Help me choose my first 8th level spell please! Valid sources include PHB, MotP, and all of WOTC splatbooks. (All polymorph spells hhave been banned!) I was thinking about: Summon Monster VIII . . . because all monsters I summon have the pseudonatural template. 1-3 Bebiliths, Huge Elementals, or Elder Xorns would kick ass. Noble Salamanders are sweet too. A relevant pseudonatural ability is a +20 to hit on one attack 1/day. If used with special attacks, like the Bebilith's armor ripping or the Salamander's constriction, it is quite powerful and versatile. Bigby's Clenched Fist Would be DC 29 Fort save or be stunned with a +33 to hit. I was seriously considering this one, but now I'm torn. Otto's Irresistable Dance Combined with Project Image, this can be potent. I have several damaging spells that require Relfex saves (Fireball, Cone of Cold, Reality Maelstrom) along with Empower to increase damage. Any other ideas? BTW, we are playing the Dungeon adventure "The Harrowing." Funny thing is my Alienist phobia is spiders! THANKS! [/QUOTE]

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