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<blockquote data-quote="AslanC" data-source="post: 6151242" data-attributes="member: 14077">Not to be rude, but I thought I had made it clear I do not want to use 3.5 for various reasons.&nbsp; Also, and I am not trying to be flippant, but why are you trying to convince me to use it?&nbsp; I have already, through this process, learned of B&amp;T and 13th Age, so I have expanded by horizons considerably <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; I have also rediscovered an appreciation for C&amp;C, as well as seeing the Crusader's Companion and Advanced C&amp;C.My dislikes of 3.5 are as follows;1] Encounter creation2] Feat Bloat3] Magic/Spell handling4] Skills and skill bloat5] Everything past lvl 6 for the most part.That's more than enough reasons for me to look for something else.&nbsp; I am not trying to get someone to &quot;show&quot; me how I have missed out 3.5, I am trying to find an alternative that keeps the parts I do like about 3.5;1] Racial Abilities2] Class Abilities3] Ascending AC4] BAB5] Diverse Classes6] Limited Feats7] Easy MulticlassingThose things are not exclusive to 3.5, or at least require me to use 3.5 only.The problems I listed are inherent to 3.5, and turn me off of the game considerably.&nbsp; So I have reached my conclusion of what I need to do, which is to either hack C&amp;C or expanded BFRP.Oh and the reason I like E6 is that it pulls the reins on the &quot;super power&quot; explosion that occurs after lvl 6 and completely changes the tenor and tone of D&amp;D for me. Back in my 1e and 2e days, that didn't happen... hell I remember playing a 13th level Paladin in one game and while being powerful, he wasn't knocking down towers and able to destroy entire villages with a wave of his hand (yes I exaggerate for effect).As well, I have looked at the microlite versions of d20 and they are too light for my tastes, which leads me to my conclusion that 3.5/Pathfinder is just not for me.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="AslanC, post: 6151242, member: 14077"] Not to be rude, but I thought I had made it clear I do not want to use 3.5 for various reasons. Also, and I am not trying to be flippant, but why are you trying to convince me to use it? I have already, through this process, learned of B&T and 13th Age, so I have expanded by horizons considerably :) I have also rediscovered an appreciation for C&C, as well as seeing the Crusader's Companion and Advanced C&C. My dislikes of 3.5 are as follows; 1] Encounter creation 2] Feat Bloat 3] Magic/Spell handling 4] Skills and skill bloat 5] Everything past lvl 6 for the most part. That's more than enough reasons for me to look for something else. I am not trying to get someone to "show" me how I have missed out 3.5, I am trying to find an alternative that keeps the parts I do like about 3.5; 1] Racial Abilities 2] Class Abilities 3] Ascending AC 4] BAB 5] Diverse Classes 6] Limited Feats 7] Easy Multiclassing Those things are not exclusive to 3.5, or at least require me to use 3.5 only. The problems I listed are inherent to 3.5, and turn me off of the game considerably. So I have reached my conclusion of what I need to do, which is to either hack C&C or expanded BFRP. Oh and the reason I like E6 is that it pulls the reins on the "super power" explosion that occurs after lvl 6 and completely changes the tenor and tone of D&D for me. Back in my 1e and 2e days, that didn't happen... hell I remember playing a 13th level Paladin in one game and while being powerful, he wasn't knocking down towers and able to destroy entire villages with a wave of his hand (yes I exaggerate for effect). As well, I have looked at the microlite versions of d20 and they are too light for my tastes, which leads me to my conclusion that 3.5/Pathfinder is just not for me. :) [/QUOTE]

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