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<blockquote data-quote="shinigamiza" data-source="post: 4856034" data-attributes="member: 84432">Okay, I've been looking for someone already asking this question for a while but have been unable to find it.In my little group that I'm DMing (It's my first time ever playing 4th edition, 2 of my players seem to be rather expierienced <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />&nbsp; ) I have a player playing a sorcerer.&nbsp; The question has come up if Nimble Blade grants him a +1 bonus to hit for his attack rolls with powers (I.e. spells) that he is using it as an implement for.I as a DM have made a preliminary ruling that it doesn't matter how nimble your blade is when your not swinging it.&nbsp; I.e. how the heck does being able to nimbly swing your blade make you more accurate with your magic spells?&nbsp; it doesn't.I have 2 questions.&nbsp; First concerns implements as a whole.&nbsp; It is my understanding that 'in game' using an implement is more or less channeling your power through that.&nbsp; Is this a correct understanding?Second question concerns the above situation.&nbsp; Do implements get the bonuses of melee feats?&nbsp; Things such as Nimble Blade for example.&nbsp; If so, will someone point out specificly where it says they do, if not will someone point out where?&nbsp; As I indicated earlier, I erred on the side of logic for the time stating that it's nice that he can swing his blade quickly/accurately, but he's not swinging it to cast that spell and if he were it'd be the same as me punching air.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shinigamiza, post: 4856034, member: 84432"] Okay, I've been looking for someone already asking this question for a while but have been unable to find it. In my little group that I'm DMing (It's my first time ever playing 4th edition, 2 of my players seem to be rather expierienced :( ) I have a player playing a sorcerer. The question has come up if Nimble Blade grants him a +1 bonus to hit for his attack rolls with [i]powers[/i] (I.e. spells) that he is using it as an implement for. I as a DM have made a preliminary ruling that it doesn't matter how nimble your blade is when your not swinging it. I.e. how the heck does being able to nimbly swing your blade make you more accurate with your magic spells? it doesn't. I have 2 questions. First concerns implements as a whole. It is my understanding that 'in game' using an implement is more or less channeling your power through that. Is this a correct understanding? Second question concerns the above situation. Do implements get the bonuses of melee feats? Things such as Nimble Blade for example. If so, will someone point out specificly where it says they do, if not will someone point out where? As I indicated earlier, I erred on the side of logic for the time stating that it's nice that he can swing his blade quickly/accurately, but he's not swinging it to cast that spell and if he were it'd be the same as me punching air. [/QUOTE]

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