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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1119963" data-attributes="member: 9002">You almost certainly want Point Blank Shot, followed by Rapid Shot.Ignore precise shot.&nbsp; It is a bad feat for rogues.&nbsp; If you are shooting into melee (which precise shot helps deal with), a) you did not win initiative/it's probably not the first round of combat, thus, b) your foes are not flat-footed, and c) you won't get sneak attack dice.So instead of using the bow after the enemy is aware/engaged, that's the time to flank (carefully) and attack with a melee weapon (and retreat if you take damage) getting sneak attack dice damage.Really, for an archer-rogue, Precise Shot+Rapid Shot are great.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because if you get initiative, the enemy is flatfooted (no dex. bonus) and this fact help you hit with the -2/-2 rapid shot penalty (-1/-1 after precise shot).&nbsp; Plus, both shots get sneak attack dice, of course (within 30'). That can put a big 1st round hurt on stuff.So, ditch Precise shot.&nbsp; Ditch the skill enhancing feats.&nbsp; Start getting 2 attack a round as quickly as possible.&nbsp; Even if it's just for 1 or 2 rounds, that is a big increase in owwie potentiality.You might even want to consider doing Rogue3 (Precise shot), then take a fighter level (Rogue3/Fighter1) to get Rapid Shot immediately at 4th level (fighter bonus feat) and then keep doing Rogue.&nbsp; Delaying sneak attack increase one level is not horrible.Or, on the other hand, do Rogue2/Fighter1/RogueX, so at 3rd level you get 2 feats and can immediately do the &quot;Precise Shot/Rapid Shot&quot; thing.&nbsp; Plus, BAB and more Hit Points is never a bad thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1119963, member: 9002"] You almost certainly want Point Blank Shot, followed by Rapid Shot. Ignore precise shot. It is a bad feat for rogues. If you are shooting into melee (which precise shot helps deal with), a) you did not win initiative/it's probably not the first round of combat, thus, b) your foes are not flat-footed, and c) you won't get sneak attack dice. So instead of using the bow after the enemy is aware/engaged, that's the time to flank (carefully) and attack with a melee weapon (and retreat if you take damage) getting sneak attack dice damage. Really, for an archer-rogue, Precise Shot+Rapid Shot are great. Why? Because if you get initiative, the enemy is flatfooted (no dex. bonus) and this fact help you hit with the -2/-2 rapid shot penalty (-1/-1 after precise shot). Plus, both shots get sneak attack dice, of course (within 30'). That can put a big 1st round hurt on stuff. So, ditch Precise shot. Ditch the skill enhancing feats. Start getting 2 attack a round as quickly as possible. Even if it's just for 1 or 2 rounds, that is a big increase in owwie potentiality. You might even want to consider doing Rogue3 (Precise shot), then take a fighter level (Rogue3/Fighter1) to get Rapid Shot immediately at 4th level (fighter bonus feat) and then keep doing Rogue. Delaying sneak attack increase one level is not horrible. Or, on the other hand, do Rogue2/Fighter1/RogueX, so at 3rd level you get 2 feats and can immediately do the "Precise Shot/Rapid Shot" thing. Plus, BAB and more Hit Points is never a bad thing. [/QUOTE]

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