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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4658466" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>I also never said that he couldn't specify he was "looking at it with Detect Magic", I really don't knwo where you are finding the strings of thoughts that I didn't say.</p><p></p><p>I have no problems with players telling me they are studying an area or looking for magic or trying to ascertain magical emanations via detect amgic, anything that conveys the idea of what they are doing.</p><p></p><p>Now if they do not specify they are looing in a specific direction to gain information then this is what will happen (I have seen this happen too many times to count). The player wants the benefits of detect magic from the area in front of them but also wants to have the idea that his PC is likewise looking above to ensure nothing is going to fall on them. If you do not require some sort of specification as to what the PC is doing then the player will inevitably choose to have it be the most beneficial at the time, switching what his PC's intentions are from minute to minute (real time not game time) to suit his whim.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Part of the spell is "studying" but when using the persistant version then the PC must basically say that he is "studying" or "looking" at a specific direction for the "required" duration.</p><p></p><p>Now if you wish to allow free use of the directional spell that requires "study" to ascertain information and "concentration" to maintain then please feel free to do so. But do not deny that you have rewritten (or ignored) the text that is written in the PHB (and similarly used in other examples).</p><p></p><p>I do think that "study" does not necessarily fall into an action type, but rather it can be done as part of another action. Like Hide is always a part of another action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4658466, member: 16285"] I also never said that he couldn't specify he was "looking at it with Detect Magic", I really don't knwo where you are finding the strings of thoughts that I didn't say. I have no problems with players telling me they are studying an area or looking for magic or trying to ascertain magical emanations via detect amgic, anything that conveys the idea of what they are doing. Now if they do not specify they are looing in a specific direction to gain information then this is what will happen (I have seen this happen too many times to count). The player wants the benefits of detect magic from the area in front of them but also wants to have the idea that his PC is likewise looking above to ensure nothing is going to fall on them. If you do not require some sort of specification as to what the PC is doing then the player will inevitably choose to have it be the most beneficial at the time, switching what his PC's intentions are from minute to minute (real time not game time) to suit his whim. Part of the spell is "studying" but when using the persistant version then the PC must basically say that he is "studying" or "looking" at a specific direction for the "required" duration. Now if you wish to allow free use of the directional spell that requires "study" to ascertain information and "concentration" to maintain then please feel free to do so. But do not deny that you have rewritten (or ignored) the text that is written in the PHB (and similarly used in other examples). I do think that "study" does not necessarily fall into an action type, but rather it can be done as part of another action. Like Hide is always a part of another action. [/QUOTE]
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