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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4660705" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>Or that since it was a rules question (thus using Wotc rules only) and that it sure appeared to be a 3rd party rules source (and not a webcomic) which opens things up tremendously to an entirely different plane of discussion I chose to ignore going into other sources.</p><p></p><p>Have you looked at the sheer volume of "links" that people provide in one way or another in threads, do you have the "time" to wade through all of them?</p><p></p><p>I based my answers (except for the few times I gave an "opinion") on quotes and references from the WotC rules. I provided direct references to those sources and quotes.</p><p></p><p>When I did the examples were sumarily dismissed as either irrelevent or that the WotC rules were at best vague themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To my knowledge no one else has provided clear references to actual WotC sources, the statements that "study" is not a defined as a game term is a stickman arguement since the term is used repeatedly in the rules and as far as I can descern the term means what the dictionary defines it as (alright to provide even more clarity and user friendliness) from Webster's II New Riverside University Dictionary</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO it is painfully clear that the the dictionary meaning of study is what the rules are talking about in every case I have found (albeit different "meanings" still the dictionary definition).</p><p></p><p>For what its worth I tend to agree with your statement from earlier and I think we are saying the same thing and that it can fall under definiton (2) of study.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which to me is the same thing as specifying "studying" in this case - you are specifying that you are looking for or at something while the spell is in effect. You are not merely looking around (which is the default normal for walking and the basis of the game's no facing and reflexive spot checks). When I say looking around I mean that the PCs' eyes are wandering in all directions and not focused on a specific one for any length of time (like the spell requires).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4660705, member: 16285"] Or that since it was a rules question (thus using Wotc rules only) and that it sure appeared to be a 3rd party rules source (and not a webcomic) which opens things up tremendously to an entirely different plane of discussion I chose to ignore going into other sources. Have you looked at the sheer volume of "links" that people provide in one way or another in threads, do you have the "time" to wade through all of them? I based my answers (except for the few times I gave an "opinion") on quotes and references from the WotC rules. I provided direct references to those sources and quotes. When I did the examples were sumarily dismissed as either irrelevent or that the WotC rules were at best vague themselves. To my knowledge no one else has provided clear references to actual WotC sources, the statements that "study" is not a defined as a game term is a stickman arguement since the term is used repeatedly in the rules and as far as I can descern the term means what the dictionary defines it as (alright to provide even more clarity and user friendliness) from Webster's II New Riverside University Dictionary IMO it is painfully clear that the the dictionary meaning of study is what the rules are talking about in every case I have found (albeit different "meanings" still the dictionary definition). For what its worth I tend to agree with your statement from earlier and I think we are saying the same thing and that it can fall under definiton (2) of study. Which to me is the same thing as specifying "studying" in this case - you are specifying that you are looking for or at something while the spell is in effect. You are not merely looking around (which is the default normal for walking and the basis of the game's no facing and reflexive spot checks). When I say looking around I mean that the PCs' eyes are wandering in all directions and not focused on a specific one for any length of time (like the spell requires). [/QUOTE]
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