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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 140188" data-attributes="member: 707">On a side note,As a DM, I would never give a price discount for a restriction that doesn't matter.&nbsp; i.e.&nbsp; armor that only works for someone who can rage is not a hindrance for the PC who can rage.&nbsp; And armor that can only change you into a troll is no worse than armor with full polymorph capabilities...if all you intend to change into is a troll.&nbsp; (Likely, since that's the best humanoid form you can get.)I read a post once which took the idea of ridiculous &quot;limitation&quot; discounts to the logical extreme, and created a vorpal weapon for less than 10,000gp, because it could only be used by elven barbarians named Bob.&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, the PC who wanted it was an elven barbarian named Bob. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> The price discounts for limitations only come into effect IMC when you sell an item you've found.&nbsp; i.e. if I drop a vorpal sword that can only be used by elven barbarians named Bob, then Bob goes and tries to sell it, it's going to go for a lot less on the market.&nbsp; But I won't allow the PCs to use such meaningless limitations to get around the fair price of an item.Of course others may feel differently, but this magic item would definitely cost more than 10,000gp (probably a bit more than 20,000gp) IMC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 140188, member: 707"] On a side note, As a DM, I would never give a price discount for a restriction that doesn't matter. i.e. armor that only works for someone who can rage is not a hindrance for the PC who can rage. And armor that can only change you into a troll is no worse than armor with full [i]polymorph[/i] capabilities...if all you intend to change into is a troll. (Likely, since that's the best humanoid form you can get.) I read a post once which took the idea of ridiculous "limitation" discounts to the logical extreme, and created a vorpal weapon for less than 10,000gp, because it could only be used by elven barbarians named Bob. Of course, the PC who wanted it was an elven barbarian named Bob. :rolleyes: The price discounts for limitations only come into effect IMC when you sell an item you've found. i.e. if I drop a vorpal sword that can only be used by elven barbarians named Bob, then Bob goes and tries to sell it, it's going to go for a lot less on the market. But I won't allow the PCs to use such meaningless limitations to get around the fair price of an item. Of course others may feel differently, but this magic item would definitely cost more than 10,000gp (probably a bit more than 20,000gp) IMC. [/QUOTE]

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