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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 140312" data-attributes="member: 707">By 8th-level, a barbarian can rage 3/day, probably enough for a rage every battle, every day.&nbsp; If not, then by 12th, 4/day should do it.&nbsp; Since the barbarian's never going to want to polymorph into a bear when he's not raging, that's not a hindrance in my book.Sure, it would have been nice to change into something with a swim speed.&nbsp; But look at the one time it would have been nice to change into a swimmer, and compare that to the tens, perhaps even hundreds of times the PC changed into a troll...exactly what he would have changed into with a full polymorph.I'm not saying that a limited item is in all ways as good as a non-limited one, Geoff.&nbsp; What I am saying is that it's not enough of a hindrance for me to allow a price-cut.&nbsp; Doing so strikes me as merely a way to get what you want for less money than should be paid.Also, please don't take the fact that I used the troll-polymorphing item from your campaign as an attack on you, your players, or your campaign.&nbsp; It was merely a convenient example.&nbsp; I'm not saying that I think what you did was wrong, or implying any sort of wrongness in what you allowed in your world.&nbsp; I was merely offering my own perspective, and how I'd adjudicate it in my world. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 140312, member: 707"] By 8th-level, a barbarian can rage 3/day, probably enough for a rage every battle, every day. If not, then by 12th, 4/day should do it. Since the barbarian's never going to want to polymorph into a bear when he's [i]not[/i] raging, that's not a hindrance in my book. Sure, it would have been nice to change into something with a swim speed. But look at the one time it would have been nice to change into a swimmer, and compare that to the tens, perhaps even hundreds of times the PC changed into a troll...exactly what he would have changed into with a full [i]polymorph[/i]. I'm not saying that a limited item is in all ways as good as a non-limited one, Geoff. What I [i]am[/i] saying is that it's not enough of a hindrance for me to allow a price-cut. Doing so strikes me as merely a way to get what you want for less money than should be paid. Also, please don't take the fact that I used the troll-polymorphing item from your campaign as an attack on you, your players, or your campaign. It was merely a convenient example. I'm not saying that I think what you did was wrong, or implying any sort of wrongness in what you allowed in your world. I was merely offering my own perspective, and how I'd adjudicate it in [i]my[/i] world. :) [/QUOTE]

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