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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 2123241" data-attributes="member: 5">That's the point, though, isn't it?  There isn't just a single wish spell.  There are as many as people can think to phrase, and therefore no definitive source from which to research potential results.  Perhaps a high roll that beats the DC gets you a reference to one that is nearly the same.  Maybe a close DC roll gets you a somewhat similar reference.  Maybe a low roll (and remember, the player doesn't see the die roll) and you find the scroll that describes a nearly identical situation written up by a wizard who, unbeknownst to his wizard school was a colossal fraud (maybe disappearing under mysterious circumstances at some point as a result of a failed spell of his own!).  It's all part of the risk and part of the game.Bardic knowledge might help to give some perspective, but being that it is suitable for a different set of parameters, it might be best to stick with Knowledge (arcane).  Even so, it's still would require a DC and is not infallible.Given the great many permutations a wish can take on, and depending on how far-reaching someone might attempt to push the parameters of a wish spell, the DC (no matter which type of check you use) could be very high, indeed.You won't offend me if you contact a moderator and ask that they split our somewhat tangential discussion off into its own thread.  Sometimes new, related discussions spring from others.  It's only natural, not a "hijack" as you say.  How much time do you have left to find someone to word your wish for you?  Will you be using Knowledge (arcane) or Bardic Knowledge rolls to avoid the pitfalls of a wish-twisting by DM-fiat? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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