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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magestrike" data-source="post: 714950" data-attributes="member: 6259">...Good advice all around, and some of it we as a group will probably try.  But I just wanted to post to clear up a few things that I may have not been completely clear on.3rd level characters finding artifacts.  Well, yea, I kinda didnt understand that either, having DMed before myself, but I think the DM was attempting to further the plot line for the very longterm campaign he had planned out.  After playing with this DM, who is one of my best life long friends, for about 15 years, I give him leeway when it comes to stuff like this, as he always has a reason pertaining to the story.I have no problem with characters getting killed or whatnot if there is a solid reason behind it pertaining to the story.  Hect, Ive had a few killed myself.  There was one time I was playing a halfing that sacrificed himself to save the rest of the party and some freed slaves.  Overall it sucked because he was a cool character that I had played for about 6 months, but the situation arose in the game and the way I had been playing him, he would have done what he did.  What I do have an issue with is a player, because of outside info, using a powerful magic item with no other reason than "my elf would use it" when that isnt the way she had been playing the elf.  This, after seeing the stuff protecting it just caused one of her fellow party members to lose his arm.  The only reason being "it was there".  The dwarf wanted to either take it to investigate later or just leave it, hoping to get his fellow party member help after just losing his arm.Personal feelings toward her.  I actually have no bad feelings toward her.  I like her; we all do.  She is a gamer and has been since she joined the group.  My wife and I go over and hang out at their house.  Our kids play together.  Personal feelings outside the game are ok as far as I am concerned.She knew that the Deck was there because she read the DMs notes.  As a matter of fact, when we picked up the box, she said "Thats the box with the Deck in it".  We all just looked at her like "OK, thats nice.  The dwarf and human dont know that.  Its a box"Like I said before, she is usually a better player than that.  She plays a lot and has for a while.  I think the problem is that she only plays with her husband, mostly solo adventures.  After reading a lot of comments from other DMs online, and having played with a bunch of different DMs both in person and online, I dont think her playing style would "survive" their games.  The rest of us just want her to become a better roleplayer or at least be more consistent.  She has played characters in the past that were really good, we just dunno what happened.I think we need to sit down and have a chat about this situation next Tuesday before we play again.  No one is trying to change anybody or is trying to be judgemental or anything like that.  We just want to play, because we are all enjoying the hect out of this campaign.  We just didnt like the way that after all the work we have all put into this campaign, including the DM, she basically just threw her character away for no other reason than "it was there".  We will get it straightened out.Actually the funny thing is, the halfling doesnt know any of this went on.  His player was called away due to the state of emerganecy in MD.  All he knows is that we went off without him because he got detained in the town.  We are all looking forward to playing next time to see how the role playing works out in the end when the the other three come back to town.  The dwarf being hurt pretty badly, the human with one arm and the catatonic elf.  Should be some fun RPing there, especially with the halfling.Again, thanks all.  This has been a real help and I do appreciate the comments.</blockquote>

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