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<blockquote data-quote="furbs178" data-source="post: 5544750" data-attributes="member: 6675752"><p>Sorry for this super long post, I'm a bit long winded.</p><p></p><p>So I've been trying to build a duelist (or future duelist) for my campaign. We are doing Shackled City set in Greyhawk with only the Pathfinder core book. If I want anything from the Advanced Players book I have to get the DMs permission.</p><p></p><p>Here's the background first:</p><p></p><p>My character will be lvl 4 but I intend to be a duelist at level 8 and go straight to the end of the duelist levels then fill in the remainder with whatever. My previous character was a ranger and saved the group time after time with my incredible luck and the fact that I was just staying behind, shooting... >.></p><p></p><p>However, we went to recover some wands that were stolen and found the enemy base camp. We stumbled into a room and one guy got away (I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn it seemed) and called in 1-2 more encounters worth of reinforcements. We were only level 3 and our sorcerer on his 2nd day on the job (his previous character died to the first boss right after hitting lvl 3) died to a lightning bolt. My character got captured, I was kind of bored with him so when I went unconsious I just told the cleric to run away (Yes we are only a 3-person party). The DM felt a little bad about overwhelming us, but it was just bad luck and bad tactics on our part.</p><p></p><p>ANYWAY, so now I am buildng a level 4 character. We realized we dont really have a frontline melee person or a rogue, so the cleric changed a little to be able to handle the frontline if absolutely necessary, and I am trying to build a rogue/fighter. </p><p></p><p>I went with 2 levels fighter and 2 rogue, human. My favored will be fighter since I intend to have more levels of it for the feats. The rogue levels are necessary as I was the previous skill-person. I intend to go duelist at lvl 8. The problem is that I can't seem to focus my character on what I want him to do. Our DM will allow Improved Crit to stack with Keen as far as I know so with a kukri or rapier I can have a 12-20 crit range when I am high enough. My goal is to be a bit defensive fighting until I'm able to get improved crit. I'll be the main frontline person so I'm trying to get my AC high, but I also want to have damage to be a bit decent. I was intending to do either 1 rapier and 1 kukri but after realizing I'll only be slightly better at one with weapon focus I figured 2 kukri would bump my to hit to be much better so that when I fight defensively it wont be so bad. I also have 6000gp to buy whatever items in the core book I want. Also our new wizard (the person who played the poor sorcerer) picked up craft wondrous items so I'll eventually be able to get +str belt and +int headband(?), rings of protection, etc. He will get haste when it becomes available as well.</p><p></p><p>Eventually at lvl 20 I would be 4rogue/6fighter/10 duelist or 5 rogue/5 fighter/10 duelist. At level 7 I would be 3 rogue/ 4 fighter.</p><p></p><p>Its a 16 point buy (yes 16 not 15) and I put my level 4 attribute into dex and my human stat increase into dex.</p><p>My stats:</p><p>Str: 10</p><p>Dex: 20</p><p>Con: 10</p><p>Int: 15</p><p>Wis: 10</p><p>Cha: 7</p><p></p><p>Feats that I have so far (and these are changeable as my new character hasn't been put into the game yet):</p><p></p><p>1st (human bonus): Two-Weapon Fighting</p><p>1st feat: Dodge</p><p>1st (fighter bonus): Mobility</p><p>2nd (fighter bonus): Weapon Focus: Kukri</p><p>3rd Two-Weapon Defense</p><p>4th (Rogue Talent): Finesse</p><p></p><p>For the remaining feats I'm not sure what to go with.</p><p>Improved Crit, Crit Focus, Bleeding Crit (or Stunning Crit), Weapon Specialization (at fighter lvl 4) are a must</p><p></p><p>I kind of wanted these: Improved Two-weapon fighting, Greater Two-weapon fighting</p><p>OR these: Combat expertise, imp trip, (maybe) greater trip, (maybe) agile manuevers</p><p></p><p>These are others that might be nice: Imp initiative, blind fight, spring attack</p><p></p><p>Duelist gives me Combat Reflexes and Deflect Arrows</p><p></p><p>I don't really know if I want to stay in combat (except against some nastier stuff) or to hit and run which is my first problem. I also want to be able to do decent damage but I feel like until I start going deeper into duelist I will be hitting a lot but only doing small damage because of lack of str.</p><p></p><p>I bought +1 Mithral Chain Shirt and 2 masterwork Kukri and I sit at 22 AC and with fighting defensively I get +4 ac (+1 additional from acrobatics, and +1 additional from TW defense). I considered a ring of protection as well. The equipment, feats, and stats are changeable, the classes and race are not. </p><p></p><p>I figure in the upper levels, if money permits I'd have a +(1-5) Kukri with keen and maybe defender. Then the second kukri, either the same or try to stack as many elemental blasts on it (flaming blast, cold blast, electric blast) so that when I crit with the elemental one it will at +3d10 in addition to the +3d6 from the standard hit. In ideal conditions, if I had to use precise strike then run away, at lvl 10 duelist I would have 1d4(kukri)+12(precise, weap spec)+3d6(elemental)+ 2d6(sneak attack) <with +3d10 +1d4 if I critted> or something like that...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="furbs178, post: 5544750, member: 6675752"] Sorry for this super long post, I'm a bit long winded. So I've been trying to build a duelist (or future duelist) for my campaign. We are doing Shackled City set in Greyhawk with only the Pathfinder core book. If I want anything from the Advanced Players book I have to get the DMs permission. Here's the background first: My character will be lvl 4 but I intend to be a duelist at level 8 and go straight to the end of the duelist levels then fill in the remainder with whatever. My previous character was a ranger and saved the group time after time with my incredible luck and the fact that I was just staying behind, shooting... >.> However, we went to recover some wands that were stolen and found the enemy base camp. We stumbled into a room and one guy got away (I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn it seemed) and called in 1-2 more encounters worth of reinforcements. We were only level 3 and our sorcerer on his 2nd day on the job (his previous character died to the first boss right after hitting lvl 3) died to a lightning bolt. My character got captured, I was kind of bored with him so when I went unconsious I just told the cleric to run away (Yes we are only a 3-person party). The DM felt a little bad about overwhelming us, but it was just bad luck and bad tactics on our part. ANYWAY, so now I am buildng a level 4 character. We realized we dont really have a frontline melee person or a rogue, so the cleric changed a little to be able to handle the frontline if absolutely necessary, and I am trying to build a rogue/fighter. I went with 2 levels fighter and 2 rogue, human. My favored will be fighter since I intend to have more levels of it for the feats. The rogue levels are necessary as I was the previous skill-person. I intend to go duelist at lvl 8. The problem is that I can't seem to focus my character on what I want him to do. Our DM will allow Improved Crit to stack with Keen as far as I know so with a kukri or rapier I can have a 12-20 crit range when I am high enough. My goal is to be a bit defensive fighting until I'm able to get improved crit. I'll be the main frontline person so I'm trying to get my AC high, but I also want to have damage to be a bit decent. I was intending to do either 1 rapier and 1 kukri but after realizing I'll only be slightly better at one with weapon focus I figured 2 kukri would bump my to hit to be much better so that when I fight defensively it wont be so bad. I also have 6000gp to buy whatever items in the core book I want. Also our new wizard (the person who played the poor sorcerer) picked up craft wondrous items so I'll eventually be able to get +str belt and +int headband(?), rings of protection, etc. He will get haste when it becomes available as well. Eventually at lvl 20 I would be 4rogue/6fighter/10 duelist or 5 rogue/5 fighter/10 duelist. At level 7 I would be 3 rogue/ 4 fighter. Its a 16 point buy (yes 16 not 15) and I put my level 4 attribute into dex and my human stat increase into dex. My stats: Str: 10 Dex: 20 Con: 10 Int: 15 Wis: 10 Cha: 7 Feats that I have so far (and these are changeable as my new character hasn't been put into the game yet): 1st (human bonus): Two-Weapon Fighting 1st feat: Dodge 1st (fighter bonus): Mobility 2nd (fighter bonus): Weapon Focus: Kukri 3rd Two-Weapon Defense 4th (Rogue Talent): Finesse For the remaining feats I'm not sure what to go with. Improved Crit, Crit Focus, Bleeding Crit (or Stunning Crit), Weapon Specialization (at fighter lvl 4) are a must I kind of wanted these: Improved Two-weapon fighting, Greater Two-weapon fighting OR these: Combat expertise, imp trip, (maybe) greater trip, (maybe) agile manuevers These are others that might be nice: Imp initiative, blind fight, spring attack Duelist gives me Combat Reflexes and Deflect Arrows I don't really know if I want to stay in combat (except against some nastier stuff) or to hit and run which is my first problem. I also want to be able to do decent damage but I feel like until I start going deeper into duelist I will be hitting a lot but only doing small damage because of lack of str. I bought +1 Mithral Chain Shirt and 2 masterwork Kukri and I sit at 22 AC and with fighting defensively I get +4 ac (+1 additional from acrobatics, and +1 additional from TW defense). I considered a ring of protection as well. The equipment, feats, and stats are changeable, the classes and race are not. I figure in the upper levels, if money permits I'd have a +(1-5) Kukri with keen and maybe defender. Then the second kukri, either the same or try to stack as many elemental blasts on it (flaming blast, cold blast, electric blast) so that when I crit with the elemental one it will at +3d10 in addition to the +3d6 from the standard hit. In ideal conditions, if I had to use precise strike then run away, at lvl 10 duelist I would have 1d4(kukri)+12(precise, weap spec)+3d6(elemental)+ 2d6(sneak attack) <with +3d10 +1d4 if I critted> or something like that... [/QUOTE]
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