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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 5041520" data-attributes="member: 2303">Ptah is the mysterious creator that somewhat defies classification. Seen today as a god, he might not be. He created the Titans as helpers. The titans rule the world. Then the gods appear to claim the world. Titans resist. War.That's really all it takes to merge the two myths.Maybe Ptah really IS a god and merely used the titans as helpers, now considering them spent and obsolete. Or maybe he is something more than a god and is neutral in the conflict between gods and titans.In 4E, primordials and titans are mostly chaotic evil. In your myth, they'd probably be a little more complex than that: many of them might actually be a narrow-minded Lawful neutral, but I don't think this really shakes the creation myth or require titans to be respecced.What you would have to change are the primordials. In your world, 4E primordials should be replaced with super-titans of a more anthropomorphic mien. 4E titans are not godlike in power nor very humanlike in appearance. "Ordinary" 4E titans become the servants of the Super-Titans, more super-giants than actual titans. But this is just a question of nomenclature.Making new True Titans to replace the primordials doesn't sound like such a problem to me - after all, they are not every day monsters but the kind of epic behind-the-scenes guys you generally want individually crafted anyway.</blockquote>