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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4581126" data-attributes="member: 19675">As far as oversized weapons is concerned, its clear he is only talking about MG (and PB, by implication)- the other situation he's asked about regards undersized reach weapons.He's specifically being asked about characters using improperly sized reach weapons only, not just any too-large weapon.&nbsp; Since almost all reach weapons are 2 handed, a normal character can't use an oversized reach weapon (except something like the Whip) at all unless he has MG or PB:(emphasis mine)Without MG or PB, most oversized reach weapons are simply too big to use.As already pointed out, MG &amp; PB allow normal use of oversized melee weapons.&nbsp; Given that they are introduced in subsequent rule supplements, they can reasonably be assumed to be modifying the underlying rule in the PHB...just like some other feats and racial features do.&nbsp; There should be no question that normal use of a reach weapon includes the reach itself, RAW.Thus, the Sage is referring to something else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4581126, member: 19675"] As far as oversized weapons is concerned, its clear he[I] is[/I] only talking about MG (and PB, by implication)- the other situation he's asked about regards undersized reach weapons. He's [I]specifically[/I] being asked about characters using improperly sized [B]reach weapons only[/B], not just any too-large weapon. Since almost all reach weapons are 2 handed, a normal character can't use an oversized reach weapon (except something like the Whip) at all unless he has MG or PB: (emphasis mine) Without MG or PB, most oversized reach weapons are simply too big to use. As already pointed out, MG & PB allow normal use of oversized melee weapons. Given that they are introduced in subsequent rule supplements, they can reasonably be assumed to be modifying the underlying rule in the PHB...just like some other feats and racial features do. There should be no question that normal use of a reach weapon includes the reach itself, RAW. Thus, the Sage is referring to something else. [/QUOTE]

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