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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 194619" data-attributes="member: 386">I think that the best way you can make them &quot;soul-search&quot; is to make thier actions pointless.&nbsp; Whatever they are fighting for, make them take one step forward and two steps back.That can get frustrating, though.&nbsp; The players have to have faith that there will be a moment of revelation when the PCs see thier fate and accept it (or fight against it, or whatever).So maybe the next &quot;fiends&quot; your party slaughters end up to be powerful good-aligned rebels, or maybe good guys who are in disguise.Give your big bad bruiser fighter a sword that can spy on the party.&nbsp; It gives thier location to the new fiend leader.&nbsp; But since it has some wicked combat bonuses, the fighter won't want to give it up - even after the PCs are really really hurt by it.Talk to a players.&nbsp; See if anyone is bored with thier current character.&nbsp; Keep that PC in mind and set up a trap where the party can pick &quot;power&quot; if they sacrifice one of thier own.&nbsp; Or something like that.&nbsp; Then the &quot;power&quot; turns out to be cursed somehow.Well, I hope that gives you some inspiration.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 194619, member: 386"] I think that the best way you can make them "soul-search" is to make thier actions pointless. Whatever they are fighting for, make them take one step forward and two steps back. That can get frustrating, though. The players have to have faith that there will be a moment of revelation when the PCs see thier fate and accept it (or fight against it, or whatever). So maybe the next "fiends" your party slaughters end up to be powerful good-aligned rebels, or maybe good guys who are in disguise. Give your big bad bruiser fighter a sword that can spy on the party. It gives thier location to the new fiend leader. But since it has some wicked combat bonuses, the fighter won't want to give it up - even after the PCs are really really hurt by it. Talk to a players. See if anyone is bored with thier current character. Keep that PC in mind and set up a trap where the party can pick "power" if they sacrifice one of thier own. Or something like that. Then the "power" turns out to be cursed somehow. Well, I hope that gives you some inspiration. [/QUOTE]

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