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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3298876" data-attributes="member: 2011">First off, Half-Celestial do not have the good subtype. They do not overcome DR as if their weapons were good aligned.And even if they did have the good subtype, there are two rules here that could be construed as contradicting each other (unless some type of outsider has &quot;usually good&quot; or &quot;often good&quot; in their alignment).andThe specific rule is that the outsiders of a given race are always a good alignment. The general rule is that outsiders whose alignment has changed still have the good subtype.Whether or not the word &quot;always&quot; means &quot;always&quot; or &quot;always unless the DM allows it to change (via magic or otherwise)&quot; is up to the DM. But as written, always means always. No exceptions.A [Good] outsider who had:Alignment: Usually Goodcould match both rules.However, Half-Celestials do not have the [Good] subtype, hence, they do not follow that rule.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3298876, member: 2011"] First off, Half-Celestial do not have the good subtype. They do not overcome DR as if their weapons were good aligned. And even if they did have the good subtype, there are two rules here that could be construed as contradicting each other (unless some type of outsider has "usually good" or "often good" in their alignment). and The specific rule is that the outsiders of a given race are [b]always[/b] a good alignment. The general rule is that outsiders whose alignment has changed still have the good subtype. Whether or not the word "always" means "always" or "always unless the DM allows it to change (via magic or otherwise)" is up to the DM. But as written, always means always. No exceptions. A [Good] outsider who had: Alignment: Usually Good could match both rules. However, Half-Celestials do not have the [Good] subtype, hence, they do not follow that rule. [/QUOTE]

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