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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2151118" data-attributes="member: 23094">Sure!1.  The caster level for the decanter is 9th, so any variable prices should be based off of that price.2.  Control Water is, in fact, a 4th-level spell (for a bunch of classes).  The minimum caster level of the item is therefore 7th.3.  However, what you've priced above is *not* a Decanter of Endless Water.  What you've priced above is a "Headband of Control Water," which allows you to cast the Control Water spell an unlimited number of times per day.  In other words, the formula of Spell * Caster * Value is used when determining the price of an item which actually casts a spell, not merely has a particular spell as a prerequisite.You can surely see the marked difference between such an item and the Decanter.The price of the Decanter, then, is based on a more subjective, "How useful is this item?" analysis.1.  Again, you're not pricing a Sustaining Spoon.  You're pricing an item which is a continuous-use Create Food and Water at CL 5.  That really doesn't make any sense, unless you're talking about a permanently-stocked larder or table.2.  For a continuous use item, there's no such thing as charges per day.  Charges per day apply to command-activated items.  Therefore, the more correct formula is (Spell * Caster * 1,800) / (5 / Charges per Day).3.  Applying the formula to this case would then result in (3 * 5 * 1,800) / (5 / 4), or 21,600gp.4.  However, even that isn't correct, because that would be an item which was capable of casting Create Food and Water at CL 5 four times per day.That would mean that the item you are pricing is capable of feeding 12 people per day - 3 per casting, 4 castings per day.The Spoon, however, is only capable of feeding 4 people per day.  As such, it's much, much closer to a single casting of Create Food and Water.The price for a Wondrous Item that provides single casting of Create Food and Water per day is (3 * 5 * 1,800) / (5 / 1), or 5,400gp.Which, if you'll notice, is exactly what the SRD states.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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