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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2151766" data-attributes="member: 23094">Actually, calling the spell &quot;permanent&quot; would be inaccurate.A permanent spell is one which acts and then continues to hang around.It is thus dispellable.An instantaneous spell has an effect and then goes away.&nbsp; It is not dispellable after the fact.If Create Water were permanent, you could dispel the water it creates - in effect, the water it creates would be &quot;magic water.&quot;The spell doesn't doesn't create magic water.&nbsp; It creates normal, nonmagical water in an instant and then goes away.&nbsp; The water is, afterwards, present and nonmagical.Also, for the OP - die_kluge is basing his calculations off of a 3rd-party supplement (which he may or may not have written; I don't recall).&nbsp; Unless you're following the item creation rules in this 3rd-party supplement across the board, it's probably not a good idea to introduce them halfway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2151766, member: 23094"] Actually, calling the spell "permanent" would be inaccurate. A permanent spell is one which acts and then continues to hang around. It is thus dispellable. An instantaneous spell has an effect and then goes away. It is not dispellable after the fact. If Create Water were permanent, you could dispel the water it creates - in effect, the water it creates would be "magic water." The spell doesn't doesn't create magic water. It creates normal, nonmagical water [b]in an instant[/b] and then goes away. The water is, afterwards, present and nonmagical. Also, for the OP - die_kluge is basing his calculations off of a 3rd-party supplement (which he may or may not have written; I don't recall). Unless you're following the item creation rules in this 3rd-party supplement across the board, it's probably not a good idea to introduce them halfway. [/QUOTE]

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