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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 934301" data-attributes="member: 5143">Actually, the answer is in the math.  A CR X creature should be able to use up 20% of the resources of a party with average level X.  This means either 20% of one characters hit points, or spells, or items, etc. or 20% of the total HP of the party.So, if a character can each do 25% or the enemies HP in the time it takes the enemy to do 20% of theirs, then it reasons that a PC would be able do 20% of a party's HP before he dies.I can see your point though...you don't think ECL should include non-combat stuff.  That it should only be a rating of effectiveness in combat.</blockquote>