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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 936189" data-attributes="member: 6939">kreynolds and others, While reading UK's system, keep in mind that he isn't giving the 'true' CR; he has redefined CR. What he calls and what WotC calles CR are not the same thing.Spunky,CR CANNOT equal ECL.  It just doesn't make sense.  Being able to heal in 15 minutes is only a small advantage to a monster, since they won't live more than one combat. But it would be a HUGE benefit to a PC that is in many many combats.Same with strength, it will only help a monster for 5-15 attacks or so. But it will help a PC for hundreds of attacks.CR = how tough will you be to beat in one combatECL =  how much better will you be over a course of many levels.Now, this is not to say the ECL numbers are perfect....</blockquote>