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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5670401" data-attributes="member: 463">You can make some rolls on the 1e or 2e wilderness encounter tables, then stat those up as a level-appropriate encounter.&nbsp; IME since you probably only have 1 encounter in the day, it can go up to around EL+4 or so, higher with scads of minions, as long as the individual monsters aren't too tough.&nbsp; For large monster groups it can go to EL+6 or higher, but they won't normally all be ambushing the PCs at once, there may even be chances to short-rest while fighting them.Example: I roll 30-300 Orcs - result 150 Orcs.&nbsp; Looking at my Orc stats, I can start off with an Orc Chief elite-8 (MM), add some elite-7 Chosen of Gruumsh (MM) bodyguards, a few level 6 orc storm shamans (MV), a bunch of orc warrior level 7 minions (MM - just use the 'level 9' stats but ATT +12),&nbsp; some level 6 dire boars, and loads &amp; loads of orc drudge min-4s (MM) to round out the numbers.&nbsp; I might add some Orc Throngs from MV: TTNV. Ogres &amp; Trolls optional.As the PCs are 8th level I would probably not use any monsters below 6th level apart from the orc dudge minions, and they are basically scenery.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5670401, member: 463"] You can make some rolls on the 1e or 2e wilderness encounter tables, then stat those up as a level-appropriate encounter. IME since you probably only have 1 encounter in the day, it can go up to around EL+4 or so, higher with scads of minions, as long as the individual monsters aren't too tough. For large monster groups it can go to EL+6 or higher, but they won't normally all be ambushing the PCs at once, there may even be chances to short-rest while fighting them. Example: I roll 30-300 Orcs - result 150 Orcs. Looking at my Orc stats, I can start off with an Orc Chief elite-8 (MM), add some elite-7 Chosen of Gruumsh (MM) bodyguards, a few level 6 orc storm shamans (MV), a bunch of orc warrior level 7 minions (MM - just use the 'level 9' stats but ATT +12), some level 6 dire boars, and loads & loads of orc drudge min-4s (MM) to round out the numbers. I might add some Orc Throngs from MV: TTNV. Ogres & Trolls optional. As the PCs are 8th level I would probably not use any monsters below 6th level apart from the orc dudge minions, and they are basically scenery. [/QUOTE]

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