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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 5527333" data-attributes="member: 10784">I'm debating using the Kingmaker adventure path for 4E.  The catch is, my group has already been playing 4E for a while and have characters that are at 6th level.   By the time they complete the current adventure, they'll be level 7 or 8.Kingmaker is a Pathfinder AP and is designed to start with the PCs exploring & taming a "wild" region.  The initial adventures consist of tribes of kobolds, mites (small evil fey) and some low level bandits.  I like that it allows the players freedom to choose much of their path and what challenges they'll face in order.The bandits are easy enough to change - just put some higher level bandits, maybe some monstrous thug support (ogres, giants, etc).However, I'm looking for some suggestions for changing up the mites & kobolds tribes so I can challenge a level 8-10 party.  Neither tribe/group should be irredeemably evil (so, not a group of demons, undead, etc)I think I can put together a decent group of orcs to challenge a party of that level.  I'd have liked to have used hobgoblins, but they seem problematic, as the DDI I have only has two higher level hobgoblins/elites.  Anything else?  (I suppose I can use orcs & just sub in the hobgoblin racial ability for the orc one...)Thanks for any advice/input.</blockquote>