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<blockquote data-quote="Ixal" data-source="post: 8439425" data-attributes="member: 7030132">London was sacked several times during the roman and viking times. And remember that is one of the most defensible cities out there, on an island, far away from any borders and too large to be raided by random viking bands.Same for Japan. An island with usually very peaceful neighbours most of the time. Those are the exceptions, not the rule.And I am not talking about globally, even regionally conflict was constant be it wars, rebellions or just raiding.The time after WW2 till now was the most peaceful time (western/central) Europe ever experienced in recorded history.The industry I was thinking of was large iron smelting operations. From the numbers I have seen 1 ton of iron goods required 100 tons of wood which need to be locally sourced because bulk transportation is limited unless you find a fantasy solution for it or are on the coast. So even when the total requirements for wood can be balanced with the total forest of the entire country to be sustainable, the wood is required in very few areas and locally a give and take forestry does not allow for industry.[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://acoup.blog/2020/09/25/collections-iron-how-did-they-make-it-part-ii-trees-for-blooms/[/URL]During the ancient and medieval era there was significant deforestation and Europe was nearly stripped of most forests in the span of a few centuries, forests only really recovering in times of catastrophic loss of life which freed up farmland to be overgrown.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ixal, post: 8439425, member: 7030132"] London was sacked several times during the roman and viking times. And remember that is one of the most defensible cities out there, on an island, far away from any borders and too large to be raided by random viking bands. Same for Japan. An island with usually very peaceful neighbours most of the time. Those are the exceptions, not the rule. And I am not talking about globally, even regionally conflict was constant be it wars, rebellions or just raiding. The time after WW2 till now was the most peaceful time (western/central) Europe ever experienced in recorded history. The industry I was thinking of was large iron smelting operations. From the numbers I have seen 1 ton of iron goods required 100 tons of wood which need to be locally sourced because bulk transportation is limited unless you find a fantasy solution for it or are on the coast. So even when the total requirements for wood can be balanced with the total forest of the entire country to be sustainable, the wood is required in very few areas and locally a give and take forestry does not allow for industry. [URL unfurl="true"]https://acoup.blog/2020/09/25/collections-iron-how-did-they-make-it-part-ii-trees-for-blooms/[/URL] During the ancient and medieval era there was significant deforestation and Europe was nearly stripped of most forests in the span of a few centuries, forests only really recovering in times of catastrophic loss of life which freed up farmland to be overgrown. [/QUOTE]

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