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Need WOTC Offical to deal with the half-elf pregen/Keep of Shadowfell before release.
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<blockquote data-quote="Kitirat" data-source="post: 4212404" data-attributes="member: 7003"><p>Based it off the DDXP warlock, who has a class feature (prime shot) of the ranger, and the wizard at-will ray of frost as an encounter power. </p><p></p><p>I made a mistake on the wis of the dragonborn BTW, it is 13 not 16 so LOH may be based on Wis for number of times a day (or Con for that matter).</p><p></p><p>Finally, to make it clear, what I was saying is the KotS half-elf cleric has a full two sheets (it is not like the paper is blank, it is chalk full) BUT, the only racial ability other than the stat and skill boons all races get, the ONLY racial feature is the +1 dip at 10 ft.</p><p></p><p>Thus I am concerned about it for one of two reasons:</p><p>1) Half-elves are just horridly pitiful, even worse then 3.5 races and not even close to any other race in 4th.</p><p>OR</p><p>2) The pregen has none of the cool components of the Half-Elf, gimping the character in comparison to the other characters in KoTS.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, the real issue for me is I have to deal with people I'm trying to get into 4th and it is one of the things they will point to and say "here is an example of things to come, oversight and/or error" and thus have their interest diminished in the short term (I doubt highly it will prevent them from trying out 4th when the rest of the books come in, but those 30 days are going to be irritating). To be honest, I fell a bit cheated myself. You playtested this massive adventure and could not even find the half-elf issue on a pregen for it? Wow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kitirat, post: 4212404, member: 7003"] Based it off the DDXP warlock, who has a class feature (prime shot) of the ranger, and the wizard at-will ray of frost as an encounter power. I made a mistake on the wis of the dragonborn BTW, it is 13 not 16 so LOH may be based on Wis for number of times a day (or Con for that matter). Finally, to make it clear, what I was saying is the KotS half-elf cleric has a full two sheets (it is not like the paper is blank, it is chalk full) BUT, the only racial ability other than the stat and skill boons all races get, the ONLY racial feature is the +1 dip at 10 ft. Thus I am concerned about it for one of two reasons: 1) Half-elves are just horridly pitiful, even worse then 3.5 races and not even close to any other race in 4th. OR 2) The pregen has none of the cool components of the Half-Elf, gimping the character in comparison to the other characters in KoTS. Regardless, the real issue for me is I have to deal with people I'm trying to get into 4th and it is one of the things they will point to and say "here is an example of things to come, oversight and/or error" and thus have their interest diminished in the short term (I doubt highly it will prevent them from trying out 4th when the rest of the books come in, but those 30 days are going to be irritating). To be honest, I fell a bit cheated myself. You playtested this massive adventure and could not even find the half-elf issue on a pregen for it? Wow. [/QUOTE]
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