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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5496755" data-attributes="member: 42582">I had <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/299362-why-i-dont-like-alignment-fantasy-rpgs.html" target="_blank">a fairly recent thread</a> explaining my deep dislike of GM-adjudicated alignment, for this very reason. But if for some reason the group won't discard it, then Mort is (in my view) quite correct to say that the player has to have a say.Good stuff. Too often people talk about &quot;consequences&quot; as a euphamism for &quot;punishment by the GM&quot;. I think that's silly and will tend to wreck the game. But the sort of stuff you talk about is what makes a game - because it validates the player's choice by using it to open up more thematic material for him/her to work with.This is much more interesting than the GM (or other players) using alignment mechanics to hose a player. (If there really is an issue about playstyle and social contract, resolve it out of game like sensible people!)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5496755, member: 42582"] I had [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/299362-why-i-dont-like-alignment-fantasy-rpgs.html]a fairly recent thread[/url] explaining my deep dislike of GM-adjudicated alignment, for this very reason. But if for some reason the group won't discard it, then Mort is (in my view) quite correct to say that the player has to have a say. Good stuff. Too often people talk about "consequences" as a euphamism for "punishment by the GM". I think that's silly and will tend to wreck the game. But the sort of stuff you talk about is what [I]makes[/I] a game - because it validates the player's choice by using it to open up more thematic material for him/her to work with. This is much more interesting than the GM (or other players) using alignment mechanics to hose a player. (If there really is an issue about playstyle and social contract, resolve it out of game like sensible people!) [/QUOTE]

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