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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 5499124" data-attributes="member: 10784">Restraining her is fine - until she either converts or a punishment is decided - but, tying her up & keeping her that way for at least 3 months and forcing your views onto her is extreme.  I don't see any grey area on that.Also, the original post did not say the mayor was controlling the devil.  It only said the mayor was "still there watching the fight"  How does one jump to the conclusion that the mayor was controlling the devil?  What if the devil, or somebody hidden/invisible had cast "Hold Person" or some other type of spell that did not allow the mayor to move?  For all the paladin knew, the mayor could have been held or otherwise restrained because the mayor was the real target of the bone devil.</blockquote>