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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 570684" data-attributes="member: 1656"><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The way I see it, a target for a spell generally only needs to fulfil the requirements at time of casting... for example, "any number of creatures, no two of which may be more than 30' apart" - the spell doesn't end if someone steps 10' further away.On the other hand, if you cast Levitate on someone and they subsequently cast Ironbody... by that ruling you could still lift them.  Levitate doesn't have a limit on what it can lift, only on what it can target... and they were within the target weight limit when you cast the spell.So there might be flaws in the reasoning...Although at present, there's... what, three forms of perma-death in the whole game?  Death by age, death by Barghest, and death by Charnel Fire?(I suppose there's death by poverty, but that one's theoretically curable <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )I don't know that having a less esoteric way to kill someone forever is a Bad Thing.-Hyp.</blockquote>