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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7527875" data-attributes="member: 37579">Which is a giant, giant maybe. We literally have ZERO evidence one way or another. Mearls is pretty on-message that this is "his" take on the Vale. Just like Crawford did his own take on Ravenloft some time ago. If they ever do a product, they might just as easily go with the original, pulling what still works from this document and turning to the original for the rest. And if they do a Vale Gazetteer, it's likely to be a side product on the Guild. Which means it's easiest to tap freelancers to do that job. Maybe Rich Baker and Robert J Schwab. Or Rob Heinsoo. Who might not care about Mearls' vision. Maybe. But there were two years between Ravenloft and Eberron. We might not see another for two years. One each June might be doable. But let's go rocket fast for the sake of argument. Every six months, with Ravnica counting as one. So two new releases next year. They'll almost certainly go for the big settings first. Dark Sun and Planescape are the big ones left. But they might spread them out. Then it's Greyhawk, Dragonlance, and Spelljammer. So we're looking at 2021 before the third tier settings might see release, likely starting with Mystara. But that's a long, long time away. Will the show still be on? Will streaming games still be popular? Will Heroes have the Vale broken away from the core assumptions of the setting and become something entirely else? Will they still be making 5e or will the market have dried up? Even if 5e is doing strong, with class settings still have the same appeal?I don't think all the content released for 4e counts as being essential to the setting. In the same way we don't need everything released for 3e to update Greyhawk. It was created for the game and not the world. When one thinks of Nentire Vale and the adventures and accessories in that world, they don't think about wilden seekers and shardmind runepriests. If they have to do all the classes and races, do they need to update every single feat as well? The setting was expanded as they added content, but that was typically made up as they went along. As a Dungeon Master might do as they explored. What makes Nentir special for you is the lore you added and the campaigns you had that fleshed out the world. But those details will be entirely different to someone who looked at the names on the map and made them entirely different than your campaign or what later sourcebooks did with that same locale. Expanding beyond the details in the DMG will always run the risk of doing exactly what you're complaining Mearls is doing: changing the setting. So? DMs are always going to change things and make it their own. Find ways of surprising their players. There's very little difference between altering a known world to surprise fans who read all the novels and using an older version. Heck, even answering "I'm using the original version" will answer any player concerns. Plus... how often is it the players that fall in love with a setting and want to play there? Isn't that almost always the DMs? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.Yeah... remind me to show you my Ravenloft collection sometime. I have every book published for the setting and several that weren't published.</blockquote>

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