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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9235076" data-attributes="member: 7030563">No they still pretty much sucked at high level.If you played RAW it was very rare for a Magic User to be more powerful than a Fighter at any level.&nbsp; Every race except humans had a level cap that prevented magic users from getting to high level.&nbsp; When it comes to humans, they got no bonus to intelligence, so over half of human Magic-Users were capped at 7th level spells and almost none had the requisite 18 to learn 9th level spells.&nbsp; Then you only had about a 60% chance of learning the spell you wanted each level.Then if you have your one great spell for the day and you try to cast it in combat you will usually get interrupted and fail ..... and then probably die that same round.&nbsp;Unearthed Arcana improved Magic Users some by allowing them to roll 9 dice for intelligence and specialize in a school, but it was still relatively rare to get the 18 you need for 9th level spells and this publication boosted Fighters more than other classes.The only way for magic users to compete at all is to get legendary magic items like a Staff of Power or a Wand of Fire, but even then Fighters were still outdamaging them once Unearthed Arcana came online.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9235076, member: 7030563"] No they still pretty much sucked at high level. If you played RAW it was very rare for a Magic User to be more powerful than a Fighter at any level. Every race except humans had a level cap that prevented magic users from getting to high level. When it comes to humans, they got no bonus to intelligence, so over half of human Magic-Users were capped at 7th level spells and almost none had the requisite 18 to learn 9th level spells. Then you only had about a 60% chance of learning the spell you wanted each level. Then if you have your one great spell for the day and you try to cast it in combat you will usually get interrupted and fail ..... and then probably die that same round. Unearthed Arcana improved Magic Users some by allowing them to roll 9 dice for intelligence and specialize in a school, but it was still relatively rare to get the 18 you need for 9th level spells and this publication boosted Fighters more than other classes. The only way for magic users to compete at all is to get legendary magic items like a Staff of Power or a Wand of Fire, but even then Fighters were still outdamaging them once Unearthed Arcana came online. [/QUOTE]

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