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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 7377466" data-attributes="member: 2629">Yeah - a melee based concentration spell is a hard sell.  For a vengeance paladin: Let's compare +2d8 per hit to Haste's extra attack.  When you factor in the extra opportunity to smite... it is hard to pass up on that extra damage.For other paladins: Yeah, this is a pretty decent use of a high level slot, and you may even be one of the few classes capable of maintaining the concentration while being beaten upon.  Of course, you're talking about a 17th level or above paladin.  And they only get 1 or 2 5th level slots... and they could be doing 6d8 on one attack with a smite using that slot.  This is not an abusive spell in those hands.For a cleric: You're likely casting this on someone else as you get so few attacks.  A fighter that gets 4 or 5 attacks per round (3 attacks from multi+ reaction + bonus?) would get up to 10d8 bonus damage per round out of it - but that ties up your concentration which you could be using for so many other spells. Would that be better than a 5d8 Spirit Guardians catching all enemies in a 15' radius?  Or banishing 2 creatures?  And you're putting extra eggs in one basket.  If that fighter gets held, knocked down, etc... you're out two significant resources... the fighter and your spell.</blockquote>