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Nerfing Wizards the Old Fashioned Way: Magic User in 1e
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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8084931" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>You are both wrong and right. It's not the amount of magic items you mention that brought the Mounty haul mention, but the fact that these items were on one character of a single digit. A +1 ring might not stack with magical armor but would definitely stack with a non magical one. Faced with the choice of a +2 chain mail or plate with a +1 ring, a fighter would always choose the later. The chances to get a magical plate were low but magical shields were more common.</p><p></p><p>Yes the limitations of paladins on magical items was a harsh one. It meant that the paladin had no back up to rely on. The party fighter might have 3 +1 swords, 2 magical armors and 3 magical shields as backup if he lost his +2 long sword, +2 chain mail and +2 shield. The paladin, if push came to shove, was stuck with normal, non magical items. </p><p></p><p>Items of the +1-2 variety were not really that rare, especially weapons and you could find them relatively easily. But high end items such as a simple +1 plate, a magical ring or anything other than scrolls and potion were not that easy to find. Depending on your luck, magical wands were not too rare and a wizard could expect to have a few by 12th level. But the vast majority of magical would be weapons of the +1-2 variety and magical chain mails or worse armor types of the +1-2 variety. Any armor a plate quality or higher would be rare to the extreme and just a rumor of a magical +1 field plate in a treasure hoard would send dozens of adventuring groups to the rumored site.</p><p></p><p>Yes, magical items were a lot more common place in 1ed but their quality was usually of the +1-2 variety.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8084931, member: 6855114"] You are both wrong and right. It's not the amount of magic items you mention that brought the Mounty haul mention, but the fact that these items were on one character of a single digit. A +1 ring might not stack with magical armor but would definitely stack with a non magical one. Faced with the choice of a +2 chain mail or plate with a +1 ring, a fighter would always choose the later. The chances to get a magical plate were low but magical shields were more common. Yes the limitations of paladins on magical items was a harsh one. It meant that the paladin had no back up to rely on. The party fighter might have 3 +1 swords, 2 magical armors and 3 magical shields as backup if he lost his +2 long sword, +2 chain mail and +2 shield. The paladin, if push came to shove, was stuck with normal, non magical items. Items of the +1-2 variety were not really that rare, especially weapons and you could find them relatively easily. But high end items such as a simple +1 plate, a magical ring or anything other than scrolls and potion were not that easy to find. Depending on your luck, magical wands were not too rare and a wizard could expect to have a few by 12th level. But the vast majority of magical would be weapons of the +1-2 variety and magical chain mails or worse armor types of the +1-2 variety. Any armor a plate quality or higher would be rare to the extreme and just a rumor of a magical +1 field plate in a treasure hoard would send dozens of adventuring groups to the rumored site. Yes, magical items were a lot more common place in 1ed but their quality was usually of the +1-2 variety. [/QUOTE]
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