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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 4822690" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>Shemeska,</p><p>get the Circle of 8 patch for TOEE, it makes it into a truly astounding game, best D&D game ever, or at least, since Eye of the Beholder (which holds a spot close to my heart <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />)</p><p></p><p>I agree with what has been said that TOEE had by far the best interface ever, for a D&D game, what makes Neverwinter Nights suck, in one area, and TOEE shine, is that fact that D&D can ONLY be played properly in a turn based way.</p><p>You simply cannot run the good tactics of D&D in NWN, it happens ot fast, where as in TOEE, my fighter/rogue with spiked chain and Combat Reflexes, I can position to cause havoc on moving enemies, muhaha! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> You simply cannot do that in "real time" games </p><p></p><p>Yes Nevewinter seems destroyed in 4th ed, ugh!!! But I'd rather have a 4th ed game, sorry <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>Computer games do take the drudgery out of 3.5 ed though, which is why TOEE is so damn good. I'm very happy for the CPU to work out all the blasted rules, and let me have fun <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>4th ed games woudl have to be turn based, folk need ot avoid this <em>"youngsters haven't the patience for turn based games</em>" mentality, as many turn based games are still played and iirc, the Japanese don't mind them at all, showing there's a market for them.</p><p></p><p>By the way, TOEE has one massive flaw I don't know if the CO8 has yet fixed: it's die roller is, or was broken, it was heavily weighted to low rolls for the PCs (seriously)</p><p></p><p>I loved playing D&D Online, it has the BEST gameplay of any MMO I've played, not just because I'm a D&D fanatic, lol, but because it wasn't the usual insanely stupid <em>"wait until a mob spawns and kill it!"</em> garbage, yeesh, and in DDO you could use good tactics. </p><p><em><span style="color: Red">The smell of Symbol of Charming, Mind Fog and dead, burned gnolls in the morning, it smells like...XP!!</span></em> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p><p>I miss playing with Cashiry etc, sigh, alas, DDO was ruined by one thing: lack of content! It really needed 4 new dungeons every 2 weeks, at least.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 4822690, member: 19083"] Shemeska, get the Circle of 8 patch for TOEE, it makes it into a truly astounding game, best D&D game ever, or at least, since Eye of the Beholder (which holds a spot close to my heart :p) I agree with what has been said that TOEE had by far the best interface ever, for a D&D game, what makes Neverwinter Nights suck, in one area, and TOEE shine, is that fact that D&D can ONLY be played properly in a turn based way. You simply cannot run the good tactics of D&D in NWN, it happens ot fast, where as in TOEE, my fighter/rogue with spiked chain and Combat Reflexes, I can position to cause havoc on moving enemies, muhaha! ;) You simply cannot do that in "real time" games Yes Nevewinter seems destroyed in 4th ed, ugh!!! But I'd rather have a 4th ed game, sorry ;) Computer games do take the drudgery out of 3.5 ed though, which is why TOEE is so damn good. I'm very happy for the CPU to work out all the blasted rules, and let me have fun :) 4th ed games woudl have to be turn based, folk need ot avoid this [I]"youngsters haven't the patience for turn based games[/I]" mentality, as many turn based games are still played and iirc, the Japanese don't mind them at all, showing there's a market for them. By the way, TOEE has one massive flaw I don't know if the CO8 has yet fixed: it's die roller is, or was broken, it was heavily weighted to low rolls for the PCs (seriously) I loved playing D&D Online, it has the BEST gameplay of any MMO I've played, not just because I'm a D&D fanatic, lol, but because it wasn't the usual insanely stupid [I]"wait until a mob spawns and kill it!"[/I] garbage, yeesh, and in DDO you could use good tactics. [I][COLOR="Red"]The smell of Symbol of Charming, Mind Fog and dead, burned gnolls in the morning, it smells like...XP!![/COLOR][/I] :devil: I miss playing with Cashiry etc, sigh, alas, DDO was ruined by one thing: lack of content! It really needed 4 new dungeons every 2 weeks, at least. [/QUOTE]
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