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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 1309579" data-attributes="member: 63">A few things get changed around because of the differences in systems.  In EOM, there is no such thing as a luck bonus, divine bonus, or natural armor bonus.  Now, mind you, I don't have the Epic Level Handbook, and couldn't really use its rules for epic magic items anyway because that part is not open content, but the magic item costs do end up being very close to things in the DMG, as long as you stick to the normal +5 limit.As a basic guideline, for enduring magic items (like stat-boosters, flight items, etc.), take the MP cost of the appropriate spell, add 1 to that, square it, and multiply by 1000gp.  This took an excruciatingly long time to tweak and develop, to make sure that we could directly tie magic items in with the EOM magic system, keep costs at the right level, and keep the spells at the right level.Now, the issue we get into is that the core rulebooks cap certain effects, but we wanted to avoid that.  I mean, if you want a high-level spell to boost Str or AC, it should be an option.  In the core rulebooks, very few high-level spells provide statistical bonuses.  You can't get a stat mod above +4 in the core spells, can't get an AC bonus much above . . . I think also +4, maybe a bit higher for some of the high-end Cleric spells.  Now, that works fine when you learn individual spells, but a major part of EOM is that a single spell list can go from 0 to 20 MP (0th to 9th level spells), and core rulebook effects of this sort level off after 6 or 7 MP.So we kept the ability to keep advancing, but at a slower rate.  5 MP gets you +6 Str, but 10 MP only gets you +8; 5 MP gets you a +5 enhancement bonus to a weapon, but 10 MP only gets you +7.  It is possible to make very powerful items, but they're prohibitively expensive.  Now, the cost for that +10 enhancement +10 deflection full plate was actually the cost for +10 enhancement full plate and some other +10 deflection item.  Any given item can only have one spell on it, so you'd have to be a 40th level caster to make a single item with both effects (and it'd cost 1.6 million gp).The costs for items are really close when you're at modest levels.  +5 full plate is still 25,000gp, +6 stat boost items are still 36,000gp.  The only noticeable change is in weapons, and that's because all attempts to make the weapon costs fit into the same system as everything else and also match the core prices just didn't work.  If you notice, in the core rules, a +2 Sword costs 8000gp, but a +2 Armor costs 4000.  It seemed silly to just say 'double the prices of all weapons,' so we finagled with the pricing of spells and such, and worked it out like this:+1 sword - 4000gp (conveniently, this is the same cost as for a +2 Str item; both items give you +1 to attack and damage)+2 sword - 9000gp+3 sword - 16,000gp+4 sword - 25,000gp+5 sword - 36,000gp+6 sword - 64,000gp+7 sword - 100,000gp+8 sword - 169,000gp+9 sword - 289,000gpIn the core rules, the prices are:+1 - 2000+2 - 8000+3 - 18,000+4 - 32,000+5 - 50,000The cost of the +5 keen ghost touch +2d6 force (fire, etc.) weapon is made from an Infuse Force 5/Infuse Space 2/Create Force 2 spell (total MP cost 9).  Add 1 more for the magic item creation, square and x1000gp, and we get 100,000gp, half of the core price.  If I'd just made it +5 keen, the cost would be 49,000, as opposed to 72,000 core.Magic items were a sticking point, yes, and after reviewing your points, I'm considering upping the costs for a few spell effects.  Ask me about any other item, though, and it should be pretty close to core.</blockquote>

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