Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
D&D Older Editions
New 4E DM asks about essentials
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5656548" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Pathfinder's as much D&D as 3.5 was, except for the actual trademark, that is.</p><p></p><p>It's pretty hard to produce TPKs with 4e, but I've heard it can happen. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> The martial characters got daily powers so they wouldn't suck anymore. Simple as that, really. There are 'narrativist' rationalizations for it, though, that work if you can wrap your suspension-of-disbelief around them. Essentials, as you probably notice, largely does away with that sort of thing. Casters (and not even quite all of them, exactly) have dailies, martial types are back in their place. Casters still don't have many or as powerful spells as they did in past eds, especially considering the high nominal levels you can reach in 4e, though, so the gulf between the lowly knight and lofty mage isn't all that vast - just enough that you can tell who's Boromir and who's Gandalf.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not hard. Essentials represented an official turning point for D&D, an explicit (if not explicitly explained) 'new direction' for the game. The 10 Essentials products and anything and everything that follows until further notice is/will-be consistent with the 'new direction' while being mechanically compatible with prior material (which is also being updated here and there to help it get with the program).</p><p></p><p>Basically, look at the copyright date in HoTFL. If any book (softbound or hard) has a similar or later date, it's going to be at least /mostly/ 'Essentials style.' I say 'mostly' because exactly what the 'new direction' constitutes is so debateable.</p><p></p><p>As for your older books, print out all the errata, or just ignore them (ebay, storage box, fireplace, whatever), you can play the game fine with just Essentials+ or with everything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5656548, member: 996"] Pathfinder's as much D&D as 3.5 was, except for the actual trademark, that is. It's pretty hard to produce TPKs with 4e, but I've heard it can happen. ;) The martial characters got daily powers so they wouldn't suck anymore. Simple as that, really. There are 'narrativist' rationalizations for it, though, that work if you can wrap your suspension-of-disbelief around them. Essentials, as you probably notice, largely does away with that sort of thing. Casters (and not even quite all of them, exactly) have dailies, martial types are back in their place. Casters still don't have many or as powerful spells as they did in past eds, especially considering the high nominal levels you can reach in 4e, though, so the gulf between the lowly knight and lofty mage isn't all that vast - just enough that you can tell who's Boromir and who's Gandalf. It's not hard. Essentials represented an official turning point for D&D, an explicit (if not explicitly explained) 'new direction' for the game. The 10 Essentials products and anything and everything that follows until further notice is/will-be consistent with the 'new direction' while being mechanically compatible with prior material (which is also being updated here and there to help it get with the program). Basically, look at the copyright date in HoTFL. If any book (softbound or hard) has a similar or later date, it's going to be at least /mostly/ 'Essentials style.' I say 'mostly' because exactly what the 'new direction' constitutes is so debateable. As for your older books, print out all the errata, or just ignore them (ebay, storage box, fireplace, whatever), you can play the game fine with just Essentials+ or with everything. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
D&D Older Editions
New 4E DM asks about essentials
Top