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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4955961" data-attributes="member: 11821">How's that relevant?  Who's saying that's awesome, either?  Just reversing the order of something I post doesn't magically add new insight.I know you don't often care to check context, but follow their posts backwards.  It all started <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/meta/265653-new-ad-bar-2.html#post4949692" target="_blank">here</a> and the dialogue between Zapp and Morrus has followed from that.  Zapp wants to block ads without being a CS; Morrus doesn't care for that - probably given how long Zapp has been around.In Zapp's most recent post, he's arguing against something that nobody even said - I don't think anyone at all is making the argument that every visitor should pony up before posting or reading.  Absolutely, without those folks, the site would suck, and I think everyone from Morrus on down knows this.IMO, he's only talking about random visitors so he can claim to be one.  Also IMO, if you've capped a thousand posts and post daily, you're not a random visitor.  And if you're a regular, the least you can do is let some ads through to help a community you apparently value.-O</blockquote>