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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Ernie" data-source="post: 4010894" data-attributes="member: 58517">Hrm... while I was hoping for an elimination of "necessary" magic items, I suppose that was a little too much to hope for. After all, as stated before, then anyone who does hand out magic weapons to his players has to boost the monsters in his campaign accordingly to keep up the challenge (although, on the other hand... what good is a magic weapon then, anyway?). So I suppose 3 "necessary" items, in other words: items which influence the game's base maths, is an acceptable enough middle road. Also, it evens out the math: weapons add to magical or physical attack, the cloak and armor add to defense against both respective attacks. Dumping them completely, and lowering the attack on some of the monsters depending on their level accordingly should be a good way to houserule a no or low-magic campaign - easier at least than is currently possible.On the ring debate: easiest thing to houserule ever. If the rings published in the DMG/Item Guide/Whatever are too powerful for level 11-, invent your own weaker versions and you're good to go. I'm imagining these "weaker versions" will be more like some of the nice but not gamedefining rings in 3.x (although I recall my wussy elf sorcerer sure loving his Ring of Warmth once the campaign moved to the High North).</blockquote>