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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8007100" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Legio is arguing in an outright bad faith way. I'm not going to play with a bad faith actor, just because you want me to.</p><p></p><p>I'm trying to interpret your post as charitably as possible, but it's quite hard because you've built an argument that relies on you misquoting me. Was that intentional or an accident? I don't know. I can't know. But I never said Edwin wasn't an English name, like you claim. I said it wasn't a "popular English name". And it isn't. It is as I said, "incredible stuff" to claim that Edwin is a "popular English name". Now if you want to argue with what I actually said, great, go ahead, but literally none of your argument is relevant to whether Edwin is a popular English name. It's extremely unpopular - around the 500th most popular name in the UK (where long ago, it was popular). Claiming it is "popular" is a good example of kind of needless and pointless bad faith stuff some people are using.</p><p></p><p>You can make a reasonable argument without misleading people like that. But some people choose not to. And you trying to get me to engage with a bad faith argument, whilst misquoting me? That's not a great look.</p><p></p><p>Further, what is even your argument? Are you claiming that the FR does not, generally, have a specific style of naming? Or are you merely saying "Well no-one has clearly codified it"? I'm unclear so I'm not even sure what response you want. I would assert that anyone claiming the FR doesn't, generally and broadly, have a specific style of naming (even if there are plenty of exceptions, which are still certainly a minority, as the FR wiki will quickly show you), is either not someone who knows much about the FR, or not someone who is interested in a straightforward discussion of this. If you're saying merely that it's not codified, as far as I know, that's correct, but it doesn't make it any less of thing.</p><p></p><p>And it's particularly ludicrous to claim it's not a thing given how many people who aren't keen on the FR use it as a stick to bash it.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - Also really unimpressed with how you're treating Paul, who is just trying to be honest, and the faux-outrage and claims of "insults" re: him saying it is unpopular and likely to lead to bullying (both of which are true) looks really like you're trying to attack<em> people </em>rather than to discuss the issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8007100, member: 18"] Legio is arguing in an outright bad faith way. I'm not going to play with a bad faith actor, just because you want me to. I'm trying to interpret your post as charitably as possible, but it's quite hard because you've built an argument that relies on you misquoting me. Was that intentional or an accident? I don't know. I can't know. But I never said Edwin wasn't an English name, like you claim. I said it wasn't a "popular English name". And it isn't. It is as I said, "incredible stuff" to claim that Edwin is a "popular English name". Now if you want to argue with what I actually said, great, go ahead, but literally none of your argument is relevant to whether Edwin is a popular English name. It's extremely unpopular - around the 500th most popular name in the UK (where long ago, it was popular). Claiming it is "popular" is a good example of kind of needless and pointless bad faith stuff some people are using. You can make a reasonable argument without misleading people like that. But some people choose not to. And you trying to get me to engage with a bad faith argument, whilst misquoting me? That's not a great look. Further, what is even your argument? Are you claiming that the FR does not, generally, have a specific style of naming? Or are you merely saying "Well no-one has clearly codified it"? I'm unclear so I'm not even sure what response you want. I would assert that anyone claiming the FR doesn't, generally and broadly, have a specific style of naming (even if there are plenty of exceptions, which are still certainly a minority, as the FR wiki will quickly show you), is either not someone who knows much about the FR, or not someone who is interested in a straightforward discussion of this. If you're saying merely that it's not codified, as far as I know, that's correct, but it doesn't make it any less of thing. And it's particularly ludicrous to claim it's not a thing given how many people who aren't keen on the FR use it as a stick to bash it. EDIT - Also really unimpressed with how you're treating Paul, who is just trying to be honest, and the faux-outrage and claims of "insults" re: him saying it is unpopular and likely to lead to bullying (both of which are true) looks really like you're trying to attack[I] people [/I]rather than to discuss the issue. [/QUOTE]
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