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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8009248" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah, that's my point. I see a few people with decent to really high hours played on DOS games, and then larger numbers of people with 0 or very low numbers, and I know that an awful lot of these copies were gifted - I was gifted both DOS and DOS2 and I know a lot of other people were too. I played maybe 2 hours of DOS1 MP, and never played DOS2 MP, despite the fact that the gifter gave four of us copies, and I think there's an awful lot of this going on - perhaps it's rare to not play it at all, but to not get very far? Play only an hour or two? Effectively sell a bunch of copies to people who wouldn't otherwise play? Yeah. I don't see the same pattern with Pillars or Pathfinder (though PF being in a Humble Bundle recently may have changed that). Instead those tend towards having at least a few solid hours logged on them.</p><p></p><p>I've seen similar patterns with some other CRPGs with MP. I know two people who have copies of ME3 solely for MP, for example (both of them did play it a fair bit MP at least). Outwards is minor, dodgy RPG that I know a number of people have just to play it MP with friends, because it's the only way to play that kind of game MP without getting into complicated mod territory.</p><p></p><p>Happens with non-CRPGs as well. Way more people I know own Borderlands 1/2 than actually have played it at all non-MP. Even the potential of playing it MP gets people buying and gifting copies.</p><p></p><p>This is purely anecdotal of course, but if anyone does have Steam Spy and if it does actually cover this (it might be analytics only game studios/publishers get), I'd be interested to know more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8009248, member: 18"] Yeah, that's my point. I see a few people with decent to really high hours played on DOS games, and then larger numbers of people with 0 or very low numbers, and I know that an awful lot of these copies were gifted - I was gifted both DOS and DOS2 and I know a lot of other people were too. I played maybe 2 hours of DOS1 MP, and never played DOS2 MP, despite the fact that the gifter gave four of us copies, and I think there's an awful lot of this going on - perhaps it's rare to not play it at all, but to not get very far? Play only an hour or two? Effectively sell a bunch of copies to people who wouldn't otherwise play? Yeah. I don't see the same pattern with Pillars or Pathfinder (though PF being in a Humble Bundle recently may have changed that). Instead those tend towards having at least a few solid hours logged on them. I've seen similar patterns with some other CRPGs with MP. I know two people who have copies of ME3 solely for MP, for example (both of them did play it a fair bit MP at least). Outwards is minor, dodgy RPG that I know a number of people have just to play it MP with friends, because it's the only way to play that kind of game MP without getting into complicated mod territory. Happens with non-CRPGs as well. Way more people I know own Borderlands 1/2 than actually have played it at all non-MP. Even the potential of playing it MP gets people buying and gifting copies. This is purely anecdotal of course, but if anyone does have Steam Spy and if it does actually cover this (it might be analytics only game studios/publishers get), I'd be interested to know more. [/QUOTE]
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