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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9572715" data-attributes="member: 83242">So your saying Keith is lying when he said:&quot;The idea is there that it COULD be possible, but it has absolutely ALWAYS been there: from the very beginning, Eberron had its own unique cosmology, but that entire cosmology was still part of the broader system of astral/ethereal/shadow.&quot;and&quot;Likewise, the fact that this means that Cyric and Bane exist somewhere in the universe is utterly meaningless in Eberron. This doesn't mean that &quot;Gods definitively exist&quot;, because as others have pointed out, the people of Eberron wouldn't identify the &quot;gods&quot; of FR as gods. &quot;and&quot;The only thing that I feel IS overstated is the statement that the Progenitors DID create the creatures of Eberron being presented as absolute fact. The rest of the book presents the idea that the Progenitors may have been metaphorical, and that is still the default assumption. The primary point of the section was to concretely say that despite default 5E stating &quot;All orcs are tied to Gruumsh&quot; and &quot;All Elves are children of Corellon&quot; that this does NOT apply to Eberron—that the elves and orcs of Eberron are part of EBERRON and have no ties to the multiverse beyond it.&quot;That is an interesting take.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9572715, member: 83242"] So your saying Keith is lying when he said: "The idea is there that it COULD be possible, but it has absolutely ALWAYS been there: from the very beginning, Eberron had its own unique cosmology, but that entire cosmology was still part of the broader system of astral/ethereal/shadow." and "Likewise, the fact that this means that Cyric and Bane exist somewhere in the universe is utterly meaningless in Eberron. This doesn't mean that "Gods definitively exist", because as others have pointed out, [I]the people of Eberron wouldn't identify the "gods" of FR as gods.[/I] " and "The only thing that I feel IS overstated is the statement that the Progenitors DID create the creatures of Eberron being presented as absolute fact. The rest of the book presents the idea that the Progenitors may have been metaphorical, and that is still the default assumption. The primary point of the section was to concretely say that despite default 5E stating "All orcs are tied to Gruumsh" and "All Elves are children of Corellon" that this does NOT apply to Eberron—that the elves and orcs of Eberron are part of EBERRON and have no ties to the multiverse beyond it." That is an interesting take. [/QUOTE]

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