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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9619543" data-attributes="member: 4348">Probably because those of us who actually introduce people to the game and such find the idea of trying to change the game to something more akin to 3e as sort of offensive and infuriating.  If OSRIC is to be an AD&D, it should be that, not some hybrid fantasy heartbreaker.The polls make it obvious that most wanted it to be a fantasy heartbreaker rather than a clone anymore, so the question of what changes were made I feel are absolutely needed to be able to decide whether to support it or not.it probably will be more popular as a fantasy heartbreaker (but it wouldn't be a AD&D clone anymore and so claiming it is would be sort of not telling the truth, as well as leaving room for someone else to make a true AD&D clone to replace the vacant spot OSRIC used to hold), but turning it from AD&D to a D&D hybrid type game defeats the entire purpose of why I would use it or suggest it to someone else in the first place.That's why I'm curious as to what changes actually occurred with their conversion.  Did they use ascending AC, have it as an option, or what?  Did they change movement to be more friendly to the VTT?  Is it really closer to AD&D now, or isn't it?I know many favor WotC D&D on this site and have no problems with making it closer to WoTC D&D than AD&D, but that doesn't mean that everyone who plays AD&D is in favor of that.  The old schoolers may be the minority these days, but that does not make us irrelevant.  We may be unpopular with the WotC D&D forms of players these days, but when they hijack our games, it sort of miffs off some of us.Why should they respond?  Obviously because some of the suggestions miffed off some of the older gamers who wanted a AD&D clone rather than the popular movement to make everything a 3e clone with aspects of TSR D&D.  Is it going to be a true clone, or just a clone in name only.  He may be a singular speaker of the thread, but I feel he was speaking for a whole bunch of players who don't speak up but read it.</blockquote>

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