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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5365779">Oh, I am vehemently against cloud computing. I have spent long hours of heated debate arguing against it with anyone from the casual user to the experienced IT professional. It's a dangerous slope that leads us deeper into the ever growing dependence upon others for what should be things we can accomplish ourselves. It allows people to distance themselves from knowing how things actually work in favor of allowing &quot;someone else&quot; to deal with it.&nbsp;The reason I have seemed to closed to hearing their opinions is that this topic started out with the pirate talk of &quot;how dare they prevent me from stealing from them!&quot; with posters freely admitting that they, and others they know, pay 10 bucks for thousands dollars in books worth of data. With that as setting the stage for this discussion, I simply can't stand it, I am in fact, in the process of buying more books because the new game i'm starting the DM has made it clear that we can do whatever we want, so long as we have a book to take it from.&nbsp;And while I don't like THAT either, I enjoy playing D&amp;D, and so I make sacrifices to continue playing the things I enjoy. Given this choice, I would rather not have my characters stored on their servers. And I'm certainly not writing any backgrounds into my characters if I have to store them remotely.&nbsp;BUT, I do enjoy the service the CB provides, and even if it's online, I'll still pay to use it, and the other tools, and will always remember that mathematically, it's a much better deal.&nbsp;If 20-30 is too much a month, you may want to consider a cheaper hobby, or start telling your players to chip in for ink if they want to use your printer.&nbsp; But then, that would make you like WotC, charging for the use of a service.&nbsp;No, they didn't.&nbsp; Now, they did.&nbsp; Maybe it simply took them longer than they were planning, perhaps the dip in sales others have mentioned really made them get this out sooner than they had planned.&nbsp; No matter how you roll it, we all know that what was going on was abusing the system.&nbsp; Even if it was &quot;ok&quot; to do, simply because nobody stopped you, doesn't make it the right thing to do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 5365779"] Oh, I am vehemently against cloud computing. I have spent long hours of heated debate arguing against it with anyone from the casual user to the experienced IT professional. It's a dangerous slope that leads us deeper into the ever growing dependence upon others for what should be things we can accomplish ourselves. It allows people to distance themselves from knowing how things actually work in favor of allowing "someone else" to deal with it. The reason I have seemed to closed to hearing their opinions is that this topic started out with the pirate talk of "how dare they prevent me from stealing from them!" with posters freely admitting that they, and others they know, pay 10 bucks for thousands dollars in books worth of data. With that as setting the stage for this discussion, I simply can't stand it, I am in fact, in the process of buying more books because the new game i'm starting the DM has made it clear that we can do whatever we want, so long as we have a book to take it from. And while I don't like THAT either, I enjoy playing D&D, and so I make sacrifices to continue playing the things I enjoy. Given this choice, I would rather not have my characters stored on their servers. And I'm certainly not writing any backgrounds into my characters if I have to store them remotely. BUT, I do enjoy the service the CB provides, and even if it's online, I'll still pay to use it, and the other tools, and will always remember that mathematically, it's a much better deal. If 20-30 is too much a month, you may want to consider a cheaper hobby, or start telling your players to chip in for ink if they want to use your printer. But then, that would make you like WotC, charging for the use of a service. No, they didn't. Now, they did. Maybe it simply took them longer than they were planning, perhaps the dip in sales others have mentioned really made them get this out sooner than they had planned. No matter how you roll it, we all know that what was going on was abusing the system. Even if it was "ok" to do, simply because nobody stopped you, doesn't make it the right thing to do. [/QUOTE]

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