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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Ernie" data-source="post: 5367651" data-attributes="member: 58517"><p>Of course. That doesn't stop any of them them from coming back, nor does it stop existing players signing up for D&Di because now they can use the CB (I have seen some anecdotal evidence for this case), or new players from actually signing up when they see Macs are supported.</p><p></p><p>That said, my statement on Mac users was mostly speculation. What I can say is that I've seen complaints about and requests for full Mac functionality since more or less day 1. (both personally and on the forums) </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not necessarily. Keep in mind that while the Terms of Use forbid it - note that they have done so since the start - nothing stops you from sharing your login information with your players, who can use the online CB to build characters. Yeah, you may get your account banned, but I don't expect very careful monitoring and policing of those terms to happen; in the end, if WotC is overly heavy with the banhammer, they only end up smashing their own foot, if you allow me to mangle two expressions at once <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p></p><p>As I see it, there are three main groups of customers that may decide they no longer want the CB:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those who downloaded the CB every 4-6 months to get access to the information, that decide a constant description is simply not worth it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those who have - for whatever reason - no reliable access to the internet when they are creating characters.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The group I will collectively call "the rest". People who dislike web services, distrust corporate policies, hate or can't use the platform, or otherwise feel moving it to a web-based environment is unacceptable.</li> </ol><p>Now, group nr.1 is a loss, but as these took advantage (as well they should) from the old system, it's not a big one. Group number three is the hardest to gouge, and may well be more than the small niche group I'm expecting them to be right now.</p><p></p><p>Group number two are the unavoidable loss, and the users I mostly feel for. There are perfectly valid reasons for not having easy internet access, and I've read several accounts of people who need to do lots of traveling (including people in the military) that simply have no use for the new model and will lose access to the new content published from now on as a result. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Odd. I have seen several people without Insider accounts post, saying that they will join up from now on. We must be looking at different threads.</p><p></p><p>All that said: the forum population is hardly a real representation of the actual one. The only evidence you'll get from them is anecdotal, and even then, the loudest voices will drown out the others. </p><p></p><p>The best we can do is decide what we want to do for ourselves - I am gonna see for myself what the new builder looks like before I decide - and watch what happens with DDi membership in the months to come.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Ernie, post: 5367651, member: 58517"] Of course. That doesn't stop any of them them from coming back, nor does it stop existing players signing up for D&Di because now they can use the CB (I have seen some anecdotal evidence for this case), or new players from actually signing up when they see Macs are supported. That said, my statement on Mac users was mostly speculation. What I can say is that I've seen complaints about and requests for full Mac functionality since more or less day 1. (both personally and on the forums) Not necessarily. Keep in mind that while the Terms of Use forbid it - note that they have done so since the start - nothing stops you from sharing your login information with your players, who can use the online CB to build characters. Yeah, you may get your account banned, but I don't expect very careful monitoring and policing of those terms to happen; in the end, if WotC is overly heavy with the banhammer, they only end up smashing their own foot, if you allow me to mangle two expressions at once :). As I see it, there are three main groups of customers that may decide they no longer want the CB: [LIST=1] [*]Those who downloaded the CB every 4-6 months to get access to the information, that decide a constant description is simply not worth it. [*]Those who have - for whatever reason - no reliable access to the internet when they are creating characters. [*]The group I will collectively call "the rest". People who dislike web services, distrust corporate policies, hate or can't use the platform, or otherwise feel moving it to a web-based environment is unacceptable. [/LIST] Now, group nr.1 is a loss, but as these took advantage (as well they should) from the old system, it's not a big one. Group number three is the hardest to gouge, and may well be more than the small niche group I'm expecting them to be right now. Group number two are the unavoidable loss, and the users I mostly feel for. There are perfectly valid reasons for not having easy internet access, and I've read several accounts of people who need to do lots of traveling (including people in the military) that simply have no use for the new model and will lose access to the new content published from now on as a result. Odd. I have seen several people without Insider accounts post, saying that they will join up from now on. We must be looking at different threads. All that said: the forum population is hardly a real representation of the actual one. The only evidence you'll get from them is anecdotal, and even then, the loudest voices will drown out the others. The best we can do is decide what we want to do for ourselves - I am gonna see for myself what the new builder looks like before I decide - and watch what happens with DDi membership in the months to come. [/QUOTE]
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