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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5380007" data-attributes="member: 22424">I'm in a similar position - I won't play 4e without the Character Builder (it represents the difference between &quot;too complex&quot; and &quot;not too complex&quot;). Especially since my DM uses all the options and all the latest updates, which means I cannot buy and use the books, as the version of the game we use isn't actually in print.The long-term answer is to simply move to another system that doesn't have the mass of technical data to assimilate. In my case, that means 3e (it's no less complex, but 8 years of play helps a lot), but other options include Pathfinder, the new WFRP, or (perhaps better) an out-of-print game like AD&amp;D, WFRP 2nd Edition, or the like.I'm reminded by something that Monte Cook commented on once - he suggested that the best thing for the game might be to have a few, big, rigorously-tested books released infrequently, but that the best thing for a business would be a regular stream of releases (that necessarily would be many, smaller, and less well tested, if only due to pressures of time). WotC have adopted the latter model wholeheartedly, then fixed the &quot;less well tested&quot; problem with online updates, making us dependent on their electronic tools. Problem being that if something goes wrong with their tools, all that's left is a mess.If the current offering is not good enough, I would strongly advise contacting Customer Support and asking for a refund of the remaining months of your subscription. The worst they can happen is that they say &quot;no&quot;.If and when they sort this mess out, and improve the service back to a level you are willing to pay for, you can resubscribe. So there's no reason not to ask for a refund.Bear in mind that WotC are a business. They won't show you any loyalty whatsoever - the moment it makes sense to &quot;fire you as a customer&quot;, they won't hesitate to do so (and nor should they). So, you shouldn't show them any excessive loyalty either - if they produce something you're willing to pay for, then good. If not, you should cut your ties and not think twice about it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5380007, member: 22424"] I'm in a similar position - I won't play 4e without the Character Builder (it represents the difference between "too complex" and "not too complex"). Especially since my DM uses all the options and all the latest updates, which means I [i]cannot[/i] buy and use the books, as the version of the game we use isn't actually in print. The long-term answer is to simply move to another system that [i]doesn't[/i] have the mass of technical data to assimilate. In my case, that means 3e (it's no less complex, but 8 years of play helps a lot), but other options include Pathfinder, the new WFRP, or (perhaps better) an out-of-print game like AD&D, WFRP 2nd Edition, or the like. I'm reminded by something that Monte Cook commented on once - he suggested that the best thing [i]for the game[/i] might be to have a few, big, rigorously-tested books released infrequently, but that the best thing [i]for a business[/i] would be a regular stream of releases (that necessarily would be many, smaller, and less well tested, if only due to pressures of time). WotC have adopted the latter model wholeheartedly, then fixed the "less well tested" problem with online updates, making us dependent on their electronic tools. Problem being that if something goes wrong with their tools, all that's left is a mess. If the current offering is not good enough, I would strongly advise contacting Customer Support and asking for a refund of the remaining months of your subscription. The worst they can happen is that they say "no". If and when they sort this mess out, and improve the service back to a level you are willing to pay for, you can resubscribe. So there's no reason [i]not[/i] to ask for a refund. Bear in mind that WotC are a [i]business[/i]. They won't show you any loyalty whatsoever - the moment it makes sense to "fire you as a customer", they won't hesitate to do so (and nor should they). So, you shouldn't show them any excessive loyalty either - if they produce something you're willing to pay for, then good. If not, you should cut your ties and not think twice about it. [/QUOTE]

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