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<blockquote data-quote="Grabuto138" data-source="post: 5380012" data-attributes="member: 61053">Your DM uses all the options. I assume by this you mean that your DM allows the players to use all the options. As far as I can tell (though I am far from an expert) most of the best builds are still a part of the original CB. Any non-essentials and non-Dark Sun build are still an option for you. Check the CharOpt board and make a kick-ass Ranger or something.&nbsp;Come to think of it, since if you are subscriber you still have access to the Compendium. I made a Thief old-school style a few weeks ago using the Compendium. &nbsp;I am curious, since you are a player and not a DM and you have decided to move to another system (that other system that has easy math or a character builder, I assume) have you already convinced your group to move these systems? Have they checked out Pathfinder's CB software?&nbsp;Far be it from me to question Monte Cook's judgement. The orignal DMG and PH served me well for many years since I ignored most of the wonky rules and made up alot of <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> as I went along. But for me, and I speak only for me, the greatest thing for 1e was 2e. The greatest thing for 2e was 3e. Etc.&nbsp;Edit: If I remember correctly, and since I drink and have a terrible memory that is a big &quot;if,&quot; a big gripe in the 3.x series of D&amp;D was the fact that there were so many fiddly modifiers to attack and damage. Doing the math by hand is actually much easier in 4e since there are fewer way to add to the attack and damage bonuses. I know there are plenty of legitimate reasone why a person would prefer to stick with Pathfinder or 3.x. But &quot;the math is too hard to do manually&quot; is not a reason I am immediately willing to buy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Grabuto138, post: 5380012, member: 61053"] Your DM uses all the options. I assume by this you mean that your DM allows the players to use all the options. As far as I can tell (though I am far from an expert) most of the best builds are still a part of the original CB. Any non-essentials and non-Dark Sun build are still an option for you. Check the CharOpt board and make a kick-ass Ranger or something. Come to think of it, since if you are subscriber you still have access to the Compendium. I made a Thief old-school style a few weeks ago using the Compendium. I am curious, since you are a player and not a DM and you have decided to move to another system (that other system that has easy math or a character builder, I assume) have you already convinced your group to move these systems? Have they checked out Pathfinder's CB software? Far be it from me to question Monte Cook's judgement. The orignal DMG and PH served me well for many years since I ignored most of the wonky rules and made up alot of :):):):) as I went along. But for me, and I speak only for me, the greatest thing for 1e was 2e. The greatest thing for 2e was 3e. Etc. Edit: If I remember correctly, and since I drink and have a terrible memory that is a big "if," a big gripe in the 3.x series of D&D was the fact that there were so many fiddly modifiers to attack and damage. Doing the math by hand is actually much easier in 4e since there are fewer way to add to the attack and damage bonuses. I know there are plenty of legitimate reasone why a person would prefer to stick with Pathfinder or 3.x. But "the math is too hard to do manually" is not a reason I am immediately willing to buy. [/QUOTE]

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