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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7491260" data-attributes="member: 6880599">I am sorry but that just not always true. Some people DO in fact choose a class because it is mechanically good then come up with a story of an epic X to support it. You working on the assumption that all players are story player first, but while I see players that choose story and support with mechanics, I also see players who choose mechanics and support with story, On top of those I have also seen players pick a party job the support it with mechanics&amp;story. None are wrong, they are just different types of play. We have 5 players in our group and all types are represented our group alone. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We have one &quot;power gamer&quot; who always try to be some awesome DPR build but does little to nothing out side of combat because he doesn't care, we have a player that wants a great story build but will not except anything with out some skill talent which makes them mechanically exceptional to support a &quot;Justifiable arrogance&quot; because he can support that arrogance in game by being actually good at something consistently, I picked a role (scout) then a less optimal class (because I like to go sub-optimal but make it still more than good because its the road less traveled and unique) the back it up with story, We have one player that's just says here is a class I have not played lets see how this goes, and we have a player that is all story based and did not care if the character worked mechanically or had a role he just wanted to be a &quot;scoundrel rogue&quot; and basically picked all stats and skills based on being smart and likable... more &quot;Face&quot; than actual rogue. The players who like combat but don't like story don't even use out of combat skill if they have them or want then, generally considering them class waste... ... And guess what... even with all these &quot;cardinal sins&quot; we play and have a great time with virtually no player problems. Most of the times when we have issues its between our story GM and player who actually know and care about the rules more than he does..... Still not really a big problem. Been playing for years and having fun. So if&nbsp; Zardnaar want a mechanically stronger build as his priority. Their is nothing wrong with that. Its just his play style.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7491260, member: 6880599"] I am sorry but that just not always true. Some people DO in fact choose a class because it is mechanically good then come up with a story of an epic X to support it. You working on the assumption that all players are story player first, but while I see players that choose story and support with mechanics, I also see players who choose mechanics and support with story, On top of those I have also seen players pick a party job the support it with mechanics&story. [B]None are wrong[/B], they are just different types of play. We have 5 players in our group and all types are represented our group alone. We have one "power gamer" who always try to be some awesome DPR build but does little to nothing out side of combat because he doesn't care, we have a player that wants a great story build but will not except anything with out some skill talent which makes them mechanically exceptional to support a "Justifiable arrogance" because he can support that arrogance in game by being actually good at something consistently, I picked a role (scout) then a less optimal class (because I like to go sub-optimal but make it still more than good because its the road less traveled and unique) the back it up with story, We have one player that's just says here is a class I have not played lets see how this goes, and we have a player that is all story based and did not care if the character worked mechanically or had a role he just wanted to be a "scoundrel rogue" and basically picked all stats and skills based on being smart and likable... more "Face" than actual rogue. The players who like combat but don't like story don't even use out of combat skill if they have them or want then, generally considering them class waste... ... And guess what... even with all these "cardinal sins" we play and have a great time with virtually no player problems. Most of the times when we have issues its between our story GM and player who actually know and care about the rules more than he does..... Still not really a big problem. Been playing for years and having fun. So if Zardnaar want a mechanically stronger build as his priority. Their is nothing wrong with that. Its just his play style. [/QUOTE]

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