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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 7401970" data-attributes="member: 7006">But at least concept for the first two make story sense.&quot;I'm strong but not that smart, so I become really good at killing things.&quot;&quot;I'm an extremely smart wizard and have learned powerful magics.&quot;&quot;I was born with innate magical power-- either it wildly flows through me or I have a dragon ancestor.&nbsp; And what do I do with that innate magical power?&nbsp; I forsake it and instead go learn some bizarre methods to contact some extraplanar entity and then bargain my life away to get different magical power!&nbsp; Because apparently the magic I was born with wasn't good enough.&quot;Sure... the occasional player might actually design a character and history for which this set of circumstances could possibly make a little sense.&nbsp; But based upon the number of posters here who keep talking about their sorcerer warlocks and how it's always JUST about their &quot;build&quot;... tells me that most of them just handwaved away their stories for MOAR POWER!Which is fine.&nbsp; Good for them.&nbsp; And in exchange for that, they have to accept that there are some of us here who are going to say that they think it's lame.&nbsp; But that really shouldn't matter to those people, because why should some rando on the internet saying their illogical storywise min-maxing is lame bother them?&nbsp; They should just be able to laugh it off.&nbsp; But if they CAN'T laugh it off and it bothers them that I was disparaging their &quot;build&quot; because I find &quot;builds&quot; that make no attempt at actual storytelling ridiculous... then that's a pretty good indication that they probably know I'm right and they have no choice but get defensive about it.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 7401970, member: 7006"] But at least concept for the first two make story sense. "I'm strong but not that smart, so I become really good at killing things." "I'm an extremely smart wizard and have learned powerful magics." "I was born with innate magical power-- either it wildly flows through me or I have a dragon ancestor. And what do I do with that innate magical power? I forsake it and instead go learn some bizarre methods to contact some extraplanar entity and then bargain my life away to get [I]different[/I] magical power! Because apparently the magic I was born with wasn't good enough." Sure... the occasional player might actually design a character and history for which this set of circumstances could possibly make a little sense. But based upon the number of posters here who keep talking about their sorcerer warlocks and how it's always JUST about their "build"... tells me that most of them just handwaved away their stories for MOAR POWER! Which is fine. Good for them. And in exchange for that, they have to accept that there are some of us here who are going to say that they think it's lame. But that really shouldn't matter to those people, because why should some rando on the internet saying their illogical storywise min-maxing is lame bother them? They should just be able to laugh it off. But if they CAN'T laugh it off and it bothers them that I was disparaging their "build" because I find "builds" that make no attempt at actual storytelling ridiculous... then that's a pretty good indication that they probably know I'm right and they have no choice but get defensive about it. ;) [/QUOTE]

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