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<blockquote data-quote="That One Guy" data-source="post: 4503330" data-attributes="member: 64672">I'm not sure if I understand where your predictions come from...Why would Battlerager Vigor be two abilities that replace three? I could see it replacing weapon talent and Combat Superiority, but also taking out combat challenge seems a bit much.I think the Beast interaction will function like figurines of wondrous power and bags of tricks. Minor action to issue commands, but the creature cannot exceed the maximum number of actions it would normally have. I think that having it work in that fashion for magical items in AV would make it cumbersome to have a different mechanic for rangers.How is Ruthless Ruffian not a good looking option? It might be a build, or it could be a weapon talent alternative. Who knows? Either way, it opens up new weapons available to the rogue and for multiclass characters this could be useful. I mean, why does it not look like a good option from the looks of it?Edit: I'm not saying that you're wrong - because clearly the book is not out, yet. But, I'm trying to see where you're coming from, because I don't get it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="That One Guy, post: 4503330, member: 64672"] I'm not sure if I understand where your predictions come from...Why would Battlerager Vigor be two abilities that replace three? I could see it replacing weapon talent and Combat Superiority, but also taking out combat challenge seems a bit much. I think the Beast interaction will function like figurines of wondrous power and bags of tricks. Minor action to issue commands, but the creature cannot exceed the maximum number of actions it would normally have. I think that having it work in that fashion for magical items in AV would make it cumbersome to have a different mechanic for rangers. How is Ruthless Ruffian not a good looking option? It might be a build, or it could be a weapon talent alternative. Who knows? Either way, it opens up new weapons available to the rogue and for multiclass characters this could be useful. I mean, why does it not look like a good option from the looks of it? Edit: I'm not saying that you're wrong - because clearly the book is not out, yet. But, I'm trying to see where you're coming from, because I don't get it. [/QUOTE]

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